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Immigration Isn't An Issue Says Congressional GOP
Sierra Times ^ | August 22,2002 | Sieera Times

Posted on 08/24/2002 7:56:02 PM PDT by sweetliberty

"The National Republican Congressional Committee has been advising its candidates NOT to mention border security and immigration issues in their speeches or campaign literature," stated Janine Hansen Independent American candidate for Congress Dist. 2 in Nevada. "The shyness of the Republican Party and the Bush Administration about immigration explains why they manifest a deafening silence about Rep. George Gekas’s (R-PA) bill (H.R. 5013) called Securing America’s Future through Enforcement Reform (SAFER)," stated Janine Hansen.

"As an Independent American I support Rep. George Gekas’s bill. Represenative Gekas is the Chairman of the Immigration Subcommittee of the House Judiciary Committee. He will start hearings on his bill next month. This legislation is completely in accord with public opinion polls showing that the big majority of the American people want government to reduce the number of legal immigrants, to stop the irresponsible issuance of visas, to deport illegal aliens, and to use U.S. troops to guard our borders," stated Hansen.

Hansen also stated that House Minority Leader Dick Gephardt (D-MO) announced a Democratic Party plan to introduce legislation to grant amnesty to millions of illegal aliens. Nothing is more unpopular with the voters than amnesty (which Senator Robert Byrd (D-WV) called "sheer lunacy"). She accused both Republicans and Democrats of being out of touch with the grass roots on the immigration issues

"America’s doors have always been open to legal immigrants. Had our immigration laws simply been enforced the tragedy of 9/11 may have been avoided. We cannot afford to pretend that immigration is not an issue. We must secure our boarders and protect the American people whether it is politically correct or not," stated Janine Hansen.

Title I of Rep. Gekas’s Immigration bil called Securing the Border, would increase the number of INS investigators and enforcement personnel, lengthen criminal sentences for alien smuggling, beef up the Border Patrol, and use U.S. military troops until the Border Patrol reaches full strength. It would stop granting visas in countries that refuse to cooperate in combating alien smuggling.

Title II, called Screening Aliens Seeking Admission, would tighten up the visa program in order to reduce the risk of aliens using fraudulent passports, require in-person interviews before issuing all visas, and bar any alien who is a member of a terrorist group or supports terrorism. Most people don't understand why this isn't already the law.

Title III, called Tracking Aliens Present in the United States, would establish a comprehensive entry-exit control system with registration and fingerprinting (which INS has promised for years but never implemented). At least 40 percent of illegal aliens (including several 9/11 terrorists) are visa overstayers.

Title IV, called Removing Alien Terrorists, Criminals, and Human Rights Violators , would authorize INS to deport any alien who was inadmissible in the first place or who we have grounds to believe may be a terrorist. This title would reverse several court decisions that accord unreasonable "rights" to terrorists claiming asylum, and would prevent the courts from releasing criminal aliens into the community.

Title V, called Enhancing Enforcement of the Immigration and Nationality Act in the Interior , would protect Social Security cards against counterfeiting and fraudulent use. This title would increase the number of INS investigators, as repeatedly requested by INS, and double the number of INS detention beds.

Title VI would eliminate excessive review and dilatory and abusive tactics by aliens in deportation proceedings. It would also exclude aliens who knowingly make a false asylum application.

Title VII would clean up the problem of voting by illegal aliens. It would require verification of citizenship for voters and applicants.

Title VIII, called Reforming Legal Immigration, would repeal the infamous Diversity Immigrant Program which admits 50,000 immigrants a year, mostly from the Third World including countries that sponsor terrorism, and which helped the Fourth of July LAX murderer win U.S. residency. It would reform the abuses in the refugee program and in the extended-family visa program, and reduce the number of legal immigrants by 20 percent. This would still leave immigration nearly double the traditional level. INS is unable to cope with its current backlog of five million applications.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: aliens; borders; gop; illegals; immigration; security
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To: RLK
"If he were a MAN capable of being president, he wouldn't need handlers."

Wonder when the last time time was that a president actually did something independently without handlers. It is my impression that they come with the office and you can't escape them no matter how smart or qualified you might be.

101 posted on 08/25/2002 12:38:54 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: wirestripper
Currently, immigration is only a concern to states directly affected by it. Not even close to a majority. This is why it is not a good political issue.

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I have your word on that?

But, beyond that, it reminds me of the observation of Winston Churchill during the rise of Hitler in which he said the nations were feeding other nations to the crocodile in the hope they would be the last one to be eaten.

102 posted on 08/25/2002 12:39:53 PM PDT by RLK
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To: wirestripper
Actually, I am in somewhat of a agreement with you here. I recall making the statement, " What is wrong with President Bush! It appears that he does'nt want to win the election!" I don't really know what happened to him. He did appear to give up near the end of the campaign.

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The problem with Bush is one of coasing through life on the basis of family contacts and reputation. It's country club social lush politics in which depth and effort are of little concern.

103 posted on 08/25/2002 12:43:56 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
Many hispanics are adopting a anti-illegal immigration stance. It will take some time and more education to convince more. This would be a great help and promote more legislation to prevent it.

This is my hope. They have a stong lobby. They can make the difference.

104 posted on 08/25/2002 12:44:45 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: WhiteGuy
Sycophant

Sycophant differs from Me-Too in that he is much more concerned with sucking up than he is with actually doing battle. Of course, he WILL engage in some light combat to impress Big Dog and other stronger Warriors, but he never exposes himself to unnecessary danger. Although combatants sometimes employ Sycophant to buttress an attack, his constantly shifting loyalties make him a weak and unreliable ally.

105 posted on 08/25/2002 12:45:34 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: sweetliberty
WHERE are you getting these???????

Too funny.

(I spelled it right didn't I?)

106 posted on 08/25/2002 12:46:54 PM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: sweetliberty
Wonder when the last time time was that a president actually did something independently without handlers.

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Uh, it seems to me Reagan came into office with ideas he worked on independently and stated during the early 60s without consulting polls or handlers. Of course, Reagan was a MAN, not a useless hothouse plant.

107 posted on 08/25/2002 12:48:02 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
on the basis of family contacts and reputation

I disagree here. Although his family connections helped a great deal, they are not defining him.

That's my feeling. Although I agree that political dynasty's can and do promote poor leaders from time to time.

108 posted on 08/25/2002 12:49:23 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: sweetliberty
"The National Republican Congressional Committee has been advising its candidates NOT to mention border security and immigration issues in their speeches or campaign literature," stated Janine Hansen Independent American candidate for Congress Dist. 2 in Nevada."

Well now, in our eagerness to dump on the Republicans, we accept whatever claims an opposing candidate makes, unsubstantiated or not, without even raising the question of a verifyiable source. After all, who cares if that's the truth or not, as long as we can criticize the Republicans.

Next thing you know, people will be posting Carville's crap and calling it "the truth".

109 posted on 08/25/2002 12:52:41 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: All
Gotta go, thanks for the thread sweet! Lookin forward to seeing that film.

Nice chatting with ya'all!

110 posted on 08/25/2002 12:52:58 PM PDT by Cold Heat
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To: WhiteGuy
"WHERE are you getting these???????"

There was a great thread posted this weekend that has the link to the site called Flame Warriors. I got a lot of giggles out of it.

Weekend vanity... What kind of forum poster are you?

111 posted on 08/25/2002 12:55:14 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: wirestripper
I disagree here. Although his family connections helped a great deal, they are not defining him.

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You are getting close. Bush is not defined. Depth and definition have not been a requitement by his background and the type of life he has lived where he has been presented with effortless opportunity on the basis of being George Bush. It shows.

112 posted on 08/25/2002 12:55:29 PM PDT by RLK
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To: sweetliberty
BTW, the title of the article leads one to believe that it will discuss what the Congressional GOP has said about immigration.

Could you point me to the section of the article where it quotes anyone in the Congressional GOP saying that?
113 posted on 08/25/2002 12:56:06 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Next thing you know, people will be posting Carville's crap and calling it "the truth".

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Carville's ravings arte not the truth and will never be presented by me or other like me as being the ravings of a semi-madman for hire. What Carville has had going for him is that the Republicans, including Bush, have never decisively refuted him on the national stage.

114 posted on 08/25/2002 12:59:26 PM PDT by RLK
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To: RLK
I guess that you conceeded my initial point on the issue..

You all are so eager to jump on the "I hate the GOP bandwagon" that you require only the hint of a rumor by an opposing candidate during an election campaign to man the pitchforks and the torches on your way to castle Frankstein.
115 posted on 08/25/2002 1:04:48 PM PDT by Luis Gonzalez
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To: Luis Gonzalez
"in our eagerness to dump on the Republicans, we accept whatever claims an opposing candidate makes, unsubstantiated or not, without even raising the question of a verifyiable source"

I used the original title, and you are right that it does give the impression that there is a statement made by Congressional Republicans. As to the statement itself, I do not necessarily believe or disbelieve based solely on this story, although I am inclined to believe it based on what seems to be a blatant disregard for the will of the people on the part of Republicans OR Democrats when it comes to this issue, so why would I NOT be so inclined? If you have evidence to prove me wrong, please share it. I am always willing to give the benefit of the doubt. I don't claim to have all the answers.

116 posted on 08/25/2002 1:07:21 PM PDT by sweetliberty
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Next thing you know, people will be posting Carville's crap and calling it "the truth".

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Several years ago you may remember Carville on endless national forums regarding the Clinton rapes and Lewinsky affair saying, "It's about sex. Everyone lies about sex."

The proper reply should have been, it's about the mental instability of a borderline psychotic who can not be trusted to be left aloner in the presidential office with a stupid glorified high school gir. There wasn't enough with or incisiveness in the entire Republican party to do it. That lack of wit and incisiveness was Carville's only strenth. It is what kept the Clintons in the White House, and what gives the Clintons power today. That lack of wit, lack of reflexive discernment, lack of incisiveness, is what characterizes Bush. Get it?

117 posted on 08/25/2002 1:09:35 PM PDT by RLK
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To: Luis Gonzalez
I have conceded nothing. You may wish I did. You may want me to. You may try to talk yourself and others into believing I did. But I stand with what I said.
118 posted on 08/25/2002 1:12:03 PM PDT by RLK
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To: VA Advogado
I would willingly trade some of our lazy citizens for some hard working immigrants.

I would gladly trade all of our open border loonies, all of our apologists for illegal immigration, and all of our immigrant-worshippers, for absolutely nothing at all in exchange. Getting rid of these nation-wreckers would be a boon surpassing anything anyone could give in exchange.

119 posted on 08/25/2002 1:16:00 PM PDT by Vast Buffalo Wing Conspiracy
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To: sweetliberty
The Republican party candidates aren't going to have much they can say pretty soon. They can't bring up immigration because it's controversial with La Raza types, they can't bring up abortion because NOW doesn't like that. They're going to let the Democrats do all the talking it seems.
120 posted on 08/25/2002 1:19:53 PM PDT by FITZ
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