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1 posted on 08/12/2002 8:54:20 AM PDT by Gabz
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I know it's a long one folks - but needs major disection
2 posted on 08/12/2002 8:55:26 AM PDT by Gabz
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Nice post, Gabz. I am still reading!!
7 posted on 08/12/2002 9:29:51 AM PDT by SheLion
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Smoking and peeing in public should both be banned. They're both unhealthy, they're both smelly, and they're both done by inconsiderate losers.

(Watch the the panicky attacks by all the smokers, many of whom will insist they don't smoke, and are therefore unbiassed -- great entertainment!).

I poke, they jump!
8 posted on 08/12/2002 9:30:20 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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"I have always voted anti-smoking, "he says. "No one needs to inhale others’ smoke. It’s a health issue, not an economic one."

That’s BS and we all know it.

Once those businesses are gone, you are not going to get it back. I think they put the cart before the horse because no economic study had been done on this legislation."

This bill was never about money. This bill is about health and in a state where we are all ashamed of our cancer rate and our cancer death rate. Perhaps this will help us with those numbers. "

Cancer doesn’t discriminate. And most cancers are NOT caused by smoking.

Gilligan says. "I have a right to have my insurance rates as low as possible," he says. "People smoking increase that cost.

I WANT TO SLAP THIS IDIOT! We smokers pay MORE then our share of health insurance. And MOST of us HAVE our own health insurance, you lame brained idiot! Gilligan better get a little more educated before he/she goes spewing this deceitful lie!

It all opens up a new level of clientele."

Oh Yes! And aren’t THEY fun! Non smokers do not stay as long and do not tip as well. New clientele? Oh right! I’m sure your going to make BILLIONS with THAT bunch!

14 posted on 08/12/2002 9:41:10 AM PDT by SheLion
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"If this (law) causes a person to lose an election, then it’s better to lose an election and to save people’s lives," Gilligan concludes. "I don’t think it’s going to affect people they way they think. A lot of people don’t go to bars and taverns because they don’t want to smell the smoke. It all opens up a new level of clientele."
Listen, hemmorhoid, if that's so true, why don't you open a no-smoking bar in a busy entertainment district and put your money where your mouth is.

Oh that's right....the definition of a politician is someone who puts other peoples' money where his mouth is.

-Eric

29 posted on 08/12/2002 10:09:17 AM PDT by E Rocc
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The question ultimately centered on whose rights prevailed, those of the smoker or those of the nonsmoker.

What about the rights of the property owner? I know, dumb question.

47 posted on 08/12/2002 12:59:21 PM PDT by dpa5923
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Smoking is not the health issue the "anti-rights"fruitcakes would have you believe.It is now an excuse like so many other things to denegrate and persecute people who's lifestyles have not been approved by the socialists.These same socialists and their inconsistant positions prove them to be hypocrites.Ban cigarettes and legalize pot,have abortions but no death penalty(at least here one got the benefit of a trial).THESE PEOPLE ARE DANGEROUS!
51 posted on 08/12/2002 2:34:34 PM PDT by INSENSITIVE GUY
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"Smoking ban legislation has been around for 20 years," Gilligan says. "It’s been debated for decades.

Slavery laws were around for centuries and debated even longer than that. That didn't make it right.

I'd like to ask the anti smoking police what happens to the eight hundred pound tax gorilla they created if smoking does go away. It's not going to disappear but will have to get it's tax dollar fix somewhere else. Most likely from something that will make the nico nazis pay throught the nose too. How does six dollars for a gallon gas sound to you?

66 posted on 08/12/2002 5:01:46 PM PDT by Hillarys Gate Cult
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I don't smoke anymore, but give me a boozy smoker any day over the thin-lipped, tight-arsed anti-smoking zealots.
80 posted on 08/12/2002 10:36:47 PM PDT by avenir
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