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To: EdReform; lentulusgracchus
I assume everyone has this cite Sexual Politics And Scientific Logic: The Issue Of Homosexuality, if not it’s a good read.

Ed thanks for the Bieber cite, I didn't have that.

173 posted on 08/12/2003 9:52:02 PM PDT by Clint N. Suhks
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To: Clint N. Suhks; EdReform
Thanks for the Socarides link.

As I recall, gay activist David Ehrenstein also wrote about the mugging of the APA (see my cited post above), but I don't recall the title of his book. You can find him quickly at Amazon, though.

I have a copy of Bieber's book, and it represents fairly well I think the state of psychiatric knowledge on the eve of the Gay Cabal's assault. Socarides' description of packed committees and exclusive seminars stinks of Bolshevik techniques of front-building. Marmor and Spitzer were two of the chief perpetrators of the whole thing, and Marmor was also the chief accuser of Paul Cameron in the Texas sodomy case that saw an ultra-liberal, forum-shopped, then-recent Carter appointee calling Cameron a liar and mountebank from a federal bench. That denunciation was fed back by Marmor and others to Nebraska, Cameron's home state, where a gay "truth squad" worked up a brief against Cameron to get him tossed from the American Psychological Association, in order to discredit him. But instead of fighting the charges, Cameron resigned, which in 20/20 retrospect may have been a mistake. You never resign the field to these guys, you always fight.

No doubt about it, Marmor has been an 800-pound bad guy in all this.

177 posted on 08/13/2003 2:39:37 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus (Usquequo, Domine?)
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To: Clint N. Suhks; scripter
Indeed, it's a good read - thanks!

Scrip - here's another one for the database:

Sexual Politics And Scientific Logic: The Issue Of Homosexuality

183 posted on 08/13/2003 9:12:18 AM PDT by EdReform (Support Free Republic - Become a Monthly Donor)
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