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Carmakers balk at Calif. bill to cut global warming
Yahoo, USA Today ^ | July 22 | James Healy

Posted on 07/22/2002 10:53:13 AM PDT by Weimdog

Carmakers balk at Calif. bill to cut global warming Mon Jul 22, 9:14 AM ET

James R. Healey USA TODAY

California Gov. Gray Davis ( news - web sites) plans to sign a bill into law today that environmentalists say will reduce global warming ( news - web sites) and that the auto industry says is a camouflaged attempt to regulate fuel economy, something only the federal government legally can do.

The governor's signature will ignite yet another furious battle between the auto industry and the environmental lobby over how much cars and trucks can be improved without boosting prices too high for buyers.

The auto industry is expected to sue to stop enforcement of the law, citing the fuel-economy argument. Automakers already have temporarily halted full enforcement of California's zero-emissions, electric-car mandate by convincing a federal judge that parts of it amount to back-door fuel-economy regulation.

The new law directs the California Air Resources Board (CARB) to come up with rules by the end of 2005 that ''achieve the maximum feasible reduction of greenhouse gases'' beginning in 2009. The main greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide (CO{-2}), and the only way to reduce emissions of it is to burn less fuel.

Vehicles contribute a minority of the CO{-2} in the atmosphere, but in California that's a significant 40%. Most CO{-2} around the world comes from factories and refineries.

''By and large, it's true'' that increasing fuel economy is the way to decrease CO{-2}, acknowledges Jon Coifman, spokesman for the Natural Resources Defense Council. ''But our argument is that by whatever means they choose to meet the standard, it's a tailpipe standard, and California absolutely has the right to regulate it.''

Traffic-choked California legally can -- and has -- set exhaust-emission standards different from the rest of the USA.

Environmental groups say cutting fuel consumption should be easy using ''off-the-shelf'' parts and technologies that don't require expensive, lengthy development. Among them: overhead-camshaft engines instead of old-tech, push-rod designs; low-rolling-resistance tires; and continuously variable transmissions (CVTs).

But real-world experience is more complex. Ford Motor, for instance, uses sophisticated, overhead-camshaft V-8 engines in its big sport-utility vehicles and pickups. But those typically get worse, not better, fuel economy than General Motors' push-rod V-8s.

Easy-rolling tires, already on some economy cars, typically have less traction, sacrificing some braking, steering and cornering prowess for fuel efficiency.

Current CVTs aren't made for more-popular and less-fuel-efficient trucks. Truck CVTs would make the biggest difference the most quickly. Another problem: When CVTs are tuned for best fuel economy, tests show, consumers don't like how they drive. When tuned to satisfy consumers, they do little for fuel economy.

The federal Environmental Protection Agency ( news - web sites) does not consider CO{-2} a regulated exhaust emission. CO{-2} is expelled by all living things and is not poisonous. In fact, green plants need it to survive, and the planet needs a certain amount to remain warm enough to inhabit. Too much, though, and Earth becomes a greenhouse, trapping heat that will change the climate adversely, environmentalists warn.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; california; globalwarming; graydavis; knife; suvcontrol
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1 posted on 07/22/2002 10:53:13 AM PDT by Weimdog
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To: Weimdog
If this is upheld, then the automobile manufacturers should (a) stop selling vehicles in California; (b) announce that bringing a vehicle into California voids the warranty; (c) terminate as expediently as possible all fleet support for government agencies in California; and (d) close all operations within the state.
2 posted on 07/22/2002 10:55:53 AM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Poohbah
Darn ... you beat me to it.
3 posted on 07/22/2002 10:56:55 AM PDT by BlueLancer
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To: Weimdog
Fine. All the auto makers should double car prices in California. Car buyers in other states shouldn't be required to subsidize the socialists in California.
4 posted on 07/22/2002 10:57:26 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Weimdog
The new law directs the California Air Resources Board (CARB) to come up with rules by the end of 2005 that ''achieve the maximum feasible reduction of greenhouse gases'' beginning in 2009. The main greenhouse gas is carbon dioxide (CO{-2}), and the only way to reduce emissions of it is to burn less fuel.

CARB (an unelected board full of loonies)

The Back-Door Enviralist Antics In Full Swing ... Wake Up California, The Socialists want your family and all-purpose vehicles off the road.

DUMP DAVI$ & the Den of Socialists

GO SIMON

5 posted on 07/22/2002 10:59:59 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Weimdog
Simple solution. Stop selling any sort of vehicle at all in California.
6 posted on 07/22/2002 11:01:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants
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To: Weimdog
He didn't just threaten to sign it...HE SIGNED IT! Just heard on KRLA AM870 news update @ 11:00am Pacific.
7 posted on 07/22/2002 11:02:42 AM PDT by Weimdog
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To: Weimdog
Too often in the past, the automakers' "battles" with California and the EPA have apparently been planned and executed by ex-French Army officers!
It's long-overdue for them to show some spine.
8 posted on 07/22/2002 11:04:20 AM PDT by Redbob
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
So right, and add to that Poohbah's post 2, points "b", "c", and "d". If doubling the price doesn't work (I agree with your suggestion..the People's Republic of California could be given one chance) then see post 2, point "a"!
9 posted on 07/22/2002 11:05:52 AM PDT by 88keys
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To: Poohbah
Amen! I still say, fence off CA, and send all the liberals there. Then pass a law stating that CA is no longer a state, and inelligible for Federal Funds, or to lobby our Congress.

Better yet, do like Bugs Bunny once did to Florida - take a big saw to the state line, and set it adrift!

10 posted on 07/22/2002 11:09:00 AM PDT by HeadOn
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To: Weimdog
It's InitiaTive Time , I rekkun.
11 posted on 07/22/2002 11:11:10 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Weimdog
The auto companies should all agree to sell ONLY electric cars to residents of California.
12 posted on 07/22/2002 11:11:22 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: 1Old Pro
...The auto companies should all agree to sell ONLY electric cars to residents of California.

Electric cars at the price of a Cadillac Escalade!

13 posted on 07/22/2002 11:23:07 AM PDT by Sgt_Schultze
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To: NormsRevenge
Some of this CARB information may be outdated, much as IS GraYout Davi$ and his underhanded tactics in foisting this on not just Califronia but on America.

  DR. WILLIAM A. BURKE

Appointed April 2000 by Governor Gray Davis

Dr. Burke of Los Angeles is currently the chairman of the South Coast Air Quality Management District’s Governing Board. He was first appointed as a member of the Board in 1993 by former Assembly Speaker Willie Brown. Dr. Burke has also served as president of both the Fish and Game Commission and the Wildlife Conservation Board. In 1972, he founded, and for two years presided over, the American Health Care Delivery Corporation. Dr. Burke is a board member of the Congressional Black Caucus Foundation. He has been awarded the Meritorious Service Award from the City of Los Angeles and the Green Power Foundation’s Man of the Year Award.

Dr. Burke earned a bachelor of science degree from the University of Miami and a doctorate degree from the University of Massachusetts.

JOSEPH C. CALHOUN

Appointed February 1994 by Governor Pete Wilson

Mr. Calhoun, a professional chemical engineer, owns Calhoun & Associates, a consulting company focusing on air quality issues. Calhoun began his career as an engineering inspector with the former Los Angeles County Air Pollution Control District, and later specialized in motor vehicle emission testing for the California Air Resources Board. After this, Mr. Calhoun worked for General Motors in Warren, Michigan, as Assistant Director of Automotive Emissions.

Mr. Calhoun has a BS in Chemistry from Prairie View A&M College and BS and MS degrees in Chemical Engineering from the University of Southern California.

DORENE D'ADAMO

Appointed August 1999 by Governor Gray Davis

Ms. D'Adamo is a graduate of the University of California at Davis (B.A. 1982) and the University of the Pacific, McGeorge School of Law (J.D. 1986). She currently serves as Legal Counsel to Congressman Gary A. Condit (D-CA), a position she has held since 1994. In this capacity, Ms. D'Adamo has developed an expertise in environmental, water and agricultural issues.

As a visiting lecturer for the California State University, Stanislaus from 1992-1998,
Ms. D'Adamo has taught courses for their Department of Politics ranging from U.S. and California government, environmental policy and land use issues.

Following law school, Ms. D'Adamo served as the Assistant Director to the California Department of the Youth Authority, Legal Counsel to the California State Assembly Committee on Public Safety and Consultant to the State Legislative Joint Committee on Prison Construction and Operations, respectively.

Ms. D'Adamo was the author of the California State Legislature's publication, "California Correctional System's Policies Regarding Parole Release and Mentally Disordered Offenders." Among her awards are a 1988 California District Attorney's Association Leadership Recognition award and induction into the distinguished Traynor Law Society and Order of the Coif.

Ms. D'Adamo resides in the San Joaquin Valley with her husband, Berj Moosekian, and children.

MARK J. DESAULNIER

Appointed July 1997 by Governor Pete Wilson

In March 1994, Supervisor DeSaulnier was appointed to the Contra Costa Board of Supervisors 4th District and was elected to serve a full four year term in the following general election. He also serves as a member of the Bay Area Air Quality Management District, the Metropolitan Transportation Commission, and the Association of Bay Area Governments Executive Committee.

In addition to his other duties, Supervisor DeSaulnier is owner and president of D.D.L. Inc., currently operating as T.R.'s Restaurant, since 1979. He is also the former owner of the Santa Fe Restaurant in Berkeley. Prior to his election to the Board of Supervisors, he served as mayor of the City of Concord from 1993-1994. Previously, he served on the Concord City Council from 1991 to 1993. He holds a B.A. in History from the College of the Holy Cross, Massachusetts.

C. HUGH FRIEDMAN

C. Hugh Friedman was appointed to the California Air Resources Board by Governor Gray Davis in March 1999.

Professor C. Hugh Friedman, a graduate of Yale University (A.B. 1953) and Stanford Law School (J.D. 1956), has practiced, taught and written extensively about corporate and securities law, and is entering his 40th year at the University of San Diego School of Law. Professor Friedman delivered the USD Law School commencement address and was awarded an honorary L.L.D. in 1976.

Following law school, Professor Friedman served as a California Deputy Attorney General in San Francisco. Moving to San Diego in 1958, he became legal counsel to a corporate conglomerate and also joined the fledgling UCD Law School adjunct faculty. As corporate counsel, and later as senior partner of his own law firm, Professor Friedman represented a variety of business enterprises, including the San Diego Padres, until joining the full-time law faculty in 1977.

Actively involved in the legal profession, he has served on numerous committees of the American Bar Association, as Chair of the Executive Committee of the California State Bar Conference of Delegates, President of the San Diego County Bar Association (receiving its award for "Outstanding Service to the Legal Profession" in 1965), President of the San Diego Legal Aid Society, co-founder of the Defenders Program of San Diego, co- founder and President of the Center for Civic Education, Chair of the California Securities Regulatory Reform Commission, and a member of the California Tort Reform Commission, the California Senate Commission on Corporate Governance and the 1995 White House Conference on Small Business Commission.

He has served as President of the California State Board of Education, President of the San Diego County Civil Service Commission, and President of the 22nd District Agricultural Association (Del Mar Fair Board). Professor Friedman's publications include the widely used 2-volume corporate treatise California Practice Guide: Corporations, and other works on corporate law and civic education.

Professor Friedman enjoys playing jazz clarinet and sharing in the activities of his wife of over 25 years, former Congresswoman Lynn Schenk, three children and four grandchildren.

WILLIAM F. FRIEDMAN, M.D.

Appointed December 1996 by Governor Pete Wilson

Dr. Friedman is the J.H. Nicholson Professor of Pediatrics (Cardiology) and the Senior Associate Dean for Academic Affairs at the University of California, Los Angeles School of Medicine. He has served as Executive Chairman for the Department of Pediatrics from 1979-1994, and since 1994 has served on the Division of Licensing for the California Medical Board. He has served on the Research Committee of the American Heart Association, the Cardiology Advisory Committee of the National Institutes of Health, and several pediatric societies. He was also the California Governor of the American College of Cardidology. He is certified by the National Board of Medical Examiners, the American Board of Pediatrics, and the Sub-Board of Pediatric Cardiology, a certifying board upon which he served as Chairman.

Dr. Friedman earned his bachelor's degree from Columbia College and his medical degree from the State University of New York, Downstate College of Medicine. He received his pediatric training at the Johns Hopkins Hospital, and his cardiology training at the National Heart Institute.

MATTHEW R. McKINNON

Appointed June 1999 by Governor Gray Davis

Mr. McKinnon has served as the Executive Officer of the California Conference of Machinists since his election in 1994. The Conference is the state organization of the International Association of Machinists & Aerospace Workers. In this capacity, he has served union members in aerospace, space and defense manufacturing, airline and rail transportation, automotive, trucking and long shore maintenance, shipbuilding, forest products, food processing, tool and die, electronics and general manufacturing. His responsibility includes federal, municipal and private sector employees.

Prior to his current post with the Machinists Union, Mr. McKinnon directed workplace health and safety activities for the California Labor Federation, directed day-to-day activities for the San Diego-Imperial Counties Central Labor Council Commission on Political Education and served as a Machinists Union Business Representative and worked in a variety of industries that include manufacturing, agriculture and construction.

BARBARA PATRICK

Appointed June 1997 by Governor Pete Wilson

Mrs. Patrick, Chairman of the Kern County Board of Supervisors, is Kern County's representative to the San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District. She also serves as Chairman of the Policy Committee for the California Regional PM10/PM2.5 Air Quality Study and the Central California Ozone Study. Mrs. Patrick is a subcommittee co-chair of the Governor's Central Valley Economic Development Summit. Current committee assignments include the Kern County Network for Children, Kern Medical Center Joint Conference Committee and the Kern Economic Development Corporation. Mrs. Patrick was elected to the Board of Supervisors in 1994.

A former teacher in the Bakersfield City School District, Mrs. Patrick earned her Bachelor's Degree from the University of California at Santa Barbara.

BARBARA RIORDAN

Appointed February 1991 by Governor Pete Wilson, serving as Chairman from November 1998 to February 1999.

In addition to serving on the California Air Resources Board, Mrs. Riordan serves as a public member of the Board of Directors for the Mojave Desert Air Quality Management District, serving San Bernardino County's high desert area. In December 1996, Mrs. Riordan retired from elective office after 13 years as a member of the San Bernardino County Board of Supervisors, two years of which she served as Chairwoman, and four years as a member of the Redlands City Council.

Mrs. Riordan, a California native, graduated from the University of Redlands in 1961 and has attended San Francisco State University and Stanford University for graduate work. She also holds a general secondary and lifetime teaching credential from the State of California.

RON ROBERTS

Appointed February 1995 by Governor Pete Wilson.

Mr. Roberts is a member of the San Diego Board of Supervisors currently serving in his second term. He also serves as a member of the San Diego Air Quality Management District and the Metropolitan Transit Development Board.

Formerly, Mr. Roberts served as a member of the San Diego City Council and the San Diego
Planning Commission. In addition, he is an architect by profession and was a managing partner of a large firm prior to his election to the City Council in 1987.

Mr. Roberts received a bachelors degree in Social Sciences from San Diego State College and a masters degree in Architecture from the University of California, Berkeley.
 

MEMBERS OF THE AIR RESOURCES BOARD

The Air Resources Board (Board) consists of 11 members appointed by the Governor with the consent of the Senate. All members serve "at the pleasure" of the Governor. The Board members serve part-time, except the Chairperson, who serves full-time.

Members must meet qualifications specified in the law. Five members must be chosen from the boards of local air quality management districts: one each from the San Diego Air Pollution Control District, San Francisco Bay Area Air Quality Management District, San Joaquin Valley Unified Air Pollution Control District, South Coast Air Quality Management District (greater Los Angeles region), and one from any other district. Three other members fill specific categories. One must have expertise in automotive engineering or a closely related field. One must have expertise in science, agriculture, or law. One must be a physician and surgeon, or health effects expert. One of the three remaining members must have expertise in air pollution control, or must meet the qualifications of one of the three categories mentioned above. The remaining two members are public members. The Governor appoints a full- time Chairperson to the Board from among its members.

The Board meets monthly, in various locations of the state. The members receive travel expenses in accordance with rates established by the Department of Personnel Administration.

Each Board member contributes her/his expertise and talent to the ARB's programs. Such activities include: giving speeches, serving on committees of the Board and other governmental committees such as the ARB Agricultural Advisory Committee, Southern California Association of Governments, San Joaquin Valley Air Quality Study Committee, and participating in various ARB workshops.

 


The following is a list of the current members of the California Air Resources Board. In addition, we provide a brief biography for each of the members.


CALIFORNIA AIR RESOURCES BOARD MEMBERS

Alan C. Lloyd, Ph.D.

Chairman

      Dr. William A. Burke
      South Coast AQMD Member

      Joseph C. Calhoun, P.E.
      Automotive Engineering Member

      Dorene D'Adamo
      Law Member

      Mark J. DeSaulnier
      Supervisor, Contra Costa County
      Bay Area AQMD Member

      C. Hugh Friedman
      Public Member

      William F. Friedman, M.D.
      Physician and Surgeon Member

      Matthew R. McKinnon
      Public Member

      Barbara Patrick
      Supervisor, Kern County
      San Joaquin Valley Unified
      APCD Member

      Mrs. Barbara Riordan
      Public Member, Mojave Desert AQMD
      Other District Member

      Ron Roberts
      Supervisor, San Diego County
      San Diego APCD Member


14 posted on 07/22/2002 11:27:32 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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To: Weimdog
California should sue G_d for giving them such a lousy climate. Why should the rest of the country suffer because of their bad luck?
15 posted on 07/22/2002 11:31:14 AM PDT by oyez
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To: NormsRevenge
Bill Simon . . .
Is he still running????
16 posted on 07/22/2002 11:55:27 AM PDT by Chebornik
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To: Poohbah

If this is upheld, then the automobile manufacturers should (a) stop selling vehicles in California; (b) announce that bringing a vehicle into California voids the warranty; (c) terminate as expediently as possible all fleet support for government agencies in California; and (d) close all operations within the state.

Start with C. When the public outcry calls "foul" because government is at a standstill then threaten to implement A and B unless the people chose freedom-of-choice cars over monopoly-on-force government. If the public and government continue to cry foul implement D.

The Genie is Out of the Bottle

As long as State and Federal governments continue to extort income-tax  from the productive working class and creative business community the parasitical-politicians and self-serving bureaucrats will never run out of ways to spend that money to the net harm of the working class, the business community and society in general. If it's not the Democrats it's the Republicans -- usually both.

As Mr. Brown used to joking say to us neighborhood kids, "Which do you want, a fat lip or a busted eyebrow." That was not lost on me. From Democrats you get one, from Republicans you get the other. Voting for the lesser of evils still begets evil.

Congress has created so many laws that virtually every person is assured of breaking more than just traffic laws. Surely with all this supposed lawlessness people and society should have long ago run head long into destruction. But it has not.

Instead, people and society have progressively prospered. Doing so despite politicians creating on average, 3,000 new laws each year which self-serving alphabet-agency bureaucrats implement/utilize to justify their usurped power and unearned paychecks. They both proclaim from on high -- with complicit endorsement from the media and academia -- that all those laws are "must-have" laws to thwart people and society from running headlong into self-destruction.

Again, despite not having this year's 3,000 must-have laws people and society increased prosperity for years and decades prior. How can it be that suddenly the people and the society they form has managed to be so prosperous for so long but suddenly they will run such great risk of destroying their self-created prosperity?

The government is the all time champion of cooking the books and it has the gall to point fingers at the whole business community because of a few bad apples. The entire business community and employees that support it should stand tall against a government feigning to protect the little guy from organizations that cook their books.

If there was ever a prime example of the fox guarding the hen house it is the government claiming to protect the little guy from organizations that cook their books. President Bush will have to militarily smash down terrorism. For that is his job. It's not the President's, congress' or the government's job to manipulate the economy.

The business community with their employees will have to stand tall against the PC-status-quo fox -- self-proclaimed authorities claiming/feigning they'll use the government to protect the little guy and a complicit media and academia that supports them; for they are all the fox -- to regain their rightful place as the champions of honest business that has always increased the well-being of people.

The government, having already manipulated the economy to almost no-end, President Bush can play the unbeatable five-ace hand of replacing the threat-of-force IRS and graduated income tax with a don't-pay-the-tax-if-you-don't-want-to consumption tax. For example, implement the proposed national retail sales tax (NRST). Not only would that win votes for Bush and republicans in congress it would boom the economy.

Where will it lead?

War of Two Worlds
Value Creators versus Value Destroyers

Politics is not the solution. It's the problem!

The first thing civilization must have is business/science. It's what the family needs so that its members can live creative, productive, happy lives. Business/science can survive, even thrive without government/bureaucracy.

Government/bureaucracy cannot survive without business/science. In general, business/science and family is the host and government/bureaucracy is a parasite.

Aside from that, keep valid government services that protect individual rights and property. Military defense, FBI, CIA, police and courts. With the rest of government striped away those few valid services would be several fold more efficient and effective than they are today. 

Underwriters Laboratory is a private sector business that has to compete in a capitalist market. Underwriters laboratory is a good example of success where government fails.

Any government agency that is a value to the people and society -- which there are but a few -- could better serve the people by being in the private sector where competition demands maximum performance.

Wake up! They are the parasites. We are the host. We don't need them. They need us.

* * *

After all, in calling for the resignation of Securities and Exchange Commissioner Harvey Pitt, McCain declares, “Government’s demands for corporate accountability are only credible if government executives are held accountable as well." Does that mean U.S. senators? Congress, Accounting, and the Free Market (McCain is grandstanding again)

"Too often, we have cooked the books, exploited off-balance sheet accounting, fudged budget numbers and failed to disclose fully the nation's assets and liabilities. If we in Washington are to have credibility in the public eye as we address the corporate accounting mess, we must reform our own fiscal practices," said McCain. Social Security Called A Bigger Fraud Than Corporate Scandals

Prove it first. It's not like it's a new discovery or problem. It's a seventy-year-old problem. It's just that now politicians and bureaucrats have trapped themselves and the general public is becoming increasingly aware. They've been caught and McCain is getting interview time to peddle gussied-up compassionate government.

"Allowing Americans to invest responsibly a small part of their payroll taxes will not only save Social Security, but will provide them with greater retirement income than those who no or will soon depend on Social Security checks," said McCain. Social Security Called A Bigger Fraud Than Corporate Scandals

Notice McCain so readily self-proclaims himself and government the authority to allow Americans to invest part of their own money. But he has a condition; it most be done responsibly. And who decides what is responsible? Certainly not the all-time champion, cook-the-books bureaucrats and snake-oil-salesmen politicians.

They -- self-proclaimed authorities -- are running citizens and society headlong into destruction.

17 posted on 07/22/2002 12:14:17 PM PDT by Zon
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
fyi
18 posted on 07/22/2002 12:17:47 PM PDT by Free the USA
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To: Zon
They -- self-proclaimed authorities -- are running citizens and society headlong into destruction.

The're going to be all powerfull like Bishops of the old church of 800 or so AD, We're headed for a new Dark Age. Any thing said aganist the "authorties" will be blasphemy ant those of blasphemy will be excomunicated.. The result of coming California election will determine enlightment or darkness for the future.

19 posted on 07/22/2002 12:29:38 PM PDT by oyez
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To: Weimdog
Governor signs bill to curb car exhaust to fight global warming

20 posted on 07/22/2002 2:23:14 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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