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To: rabidone
McVeigh probably did not know he was used by the Islamists. He died willingly because he did set off the Ryder truck bomb, but he never knew who was really behind the plot. I believe Terry Nichols knows, and is the key to unraveling the whole thing. His trips to the Phillipines were covered up by the ruse of going there to find a wife.

There is also the supposed evidence suggesting that there were bombs planted inside the Murrah building, which actually did most of the damage. McVeigh may not have known about these, which could have been planted by the Islamists.

I do not think you have to be a tin-foil hat wearer to believe this. Oklahoma City has a well known, large population of expatriate Iraqis. They did not announce their involvement in the crime, as other terrorist groups have, because McVeigh was captured so quickly and they knew that they could continue planning other operations, TWA 800 being one probable example. Clinton obviously had a vested interest in covering up the OKC plot; it was the thing that saved his presidency. Of course, then he had to cover up TWA 800 so the OKC plot would not be uncovered.

It does seem fishy to see this in a mainstream paper, just as we are running up to a probable invasion of Iraq; but just because the timing is fishy doesn't mean it isn't true!!

15 posted on 07/21/2002 9:33:24 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers
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To: Dems_R_Losers
Also note that some people who saw John Doe #2 described him as Middle Eastern in appearance. Why has he never been found and questioned?
17 posted on 07/21/2002 9:35:54 AM PDT by Dems_R_Losers
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To: Dems_R_Losers
I think you're right. McVeigh either did not know it or did not want to admit that he had been used. He was a cold and somewhat sociopathic person, I think, but even folks like that have their pride.

As for the reason that this is coming up now, I think the info and the interest have been out there for a long time. But it's only with the information emerging from the investigation of the WTC events that we are seeing everything that was suppressed by Clinton's regime, and now it's finally beginning to come together publicly.

The odd thing is that I was abroad when OKC happened, and everybody, even in Europe, knew right away that it was Islamic terrorists. And then, suddenly, Bill Clinton emerged with a member of the VRWC.

This is not to say McVeigh was not involved in it. But he clearly didn't do it alone, and it probably wasn't his idea, simply because he does not appear to have been somebody who was capable of making the plans and setting it up (to say nothing of the fact that all of tactics had Middle Eastern methods written all over them). Look for more to come out; it may take a while for the major news source pick this up, but it's happening.
22 posted on 07/21/2002 9:47:27 AM PDT by livius
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To: Dems_R_Losers
It does seem fishy to see this in a mainstream paper, just as we are running up to a probable invasion of Iraq; but just because the timing is fishy doesn't mean it isn't true!!

Have you checked the source. I wouldnt be surprised if it was a commentary and not a new report. Hell, it may even have been a letter to the editor.

46 posted on 07/21/2002 12:41:34 PM PDT by Dave S
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