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Magaw out at TSA
Fox News | 7/18/02 | Fox News

Posted on 07/18/2002 10:34:05 AM PDT by PJeffQ

Just on air.... news alert that Magaw resigned, replaced by deputy, former USCG commandant James Loy (sp?)....


TOPICS: Breaking News; Government
KEYWORDS: 2ndamendment; banglist; ccw; firearm; firearms; gun; guns; magaw; michaeldobbs; mineta; rhodesia; rkba; tsa; tyranny
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To: PJeffQ
According to this Wall Street Journal article, Magaw didn't just resign, he was fired!

White House Fires Head Of Transportation Security
By STEPHEN POWER, Staff Reporter of THE WALL STREET JOURNAL

WASHINGTON -- The Bush administration on Thursday fired the head of the new federal agency set up to protect air travelers, amid an escalating series of conflicts between the fledgling agency and the airline industry.

Transportation Secretary Norman Mineta asked for John Magaw's resignation Thursday morning, a senior Transportation Department official said.

"There was no precipitating event, just a series of questions about his management of the agency," the official said. "The phrase 'tin ear' would be appropriate.'"

Mr. Magaw couldn't be reached for comment Thursday.

In recent weeks, Mr. Magaw's agency has been under attack from airport directors who say they have been left out of decisions on how to meet a Dec. 31 deadline for deploying bomb-detection machines at their facilities, and from airline executives unhappy about random screening of passengers.

Succeeding Mr. Magaw at the Transportation Security Administration will be Adm. James Loy, who recently retired as commandant of the Coast Guard and was named deputy undersecretary for transportation security and chief operating officer of the TSA.

Mr. Magaw, a former Secret Service agent who protected President Bush's father, is considered close to the president and family. He was hospitalized earlier this year with heart trouble.

Mr. Magaw was a former head of the Secret Service and the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. He spearheaded the Transportation Department's efforts to meet a Nov. 19 deadline for replacing private screeners at airport checkpoints with an all-federal work force, and a Dec. 31 deadline for inspecting all checked bags for explosives.

He also made the decision not to allow pilots to carry firearms. The House of Representatives last week voted to arm pilots.

Write to Stephen Power at stephen.power@wsj.com
Updated July 18, 2002 3:29 p.m. EDT

61 posted on 07/18/2002 1:41:33 PM PDT by dpwiener
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To: Dog
Don’t know a thing about Loy, but these items from Beelzebubba’s links (#42) might be worth noting before we get too hopeful:

he’s received awards and citations as diverse as Seatrade Personality of the Year in London and the 2000 NAACP Meritorious Service Award, presented to him by Julian Bond, president of the organization’s national board of directors. The NAACP cited Loy for "championing equal opportunity, affirmative action, civil rights and public service in the Coast Guard."

In a forward to his article entitled “Meeting the Homeland Security Challenge,” he quotes Thomas Friedman of the New York Slimes.

Significant or not, I don’t know.

62 posted on 07/18/2002 1:51:02 PM PDT by browardchad
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To: PJeffQ
The Admiral is a good guy, but it will change nothing. Don't get to excited.
63 posted on 07/18/2002 1:55:32 PM PDT by habaes corpussel
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To: Beelzebubba
That's what I suspect, that the opposition to arming the pilots will go with Magaw. I'm still mystified that the Bush administration would support an apparently mindless policy like not arming the pilots to the extent that it has.
64 posted on 07/18/2002 1:57:38 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: SoCar
It will be interesting to see if Bush now signs the coming guns in cockpits law, meaning he is working around Mineta.
66 posted on 07/18/2002 2:14:17 PM PDT by Travis McGee
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To: nunya bidness; Askel5; OKCSubmariner
BTTT
67 posted on 07/18/2002 2:20:42 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: Betty Jo
Hadayet? Nothing more recently since that LA Slimes cover up job article.
68 posted on 07/18/2002 2:21:05 PM PDT by Shermy
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To: sinkspur
Do you spend all your time apoligizing for Bush? Maybe the first thing he signed into law was concealed carry, I don't know and, based on what I've seen of your posts, can't be sure you know either. I do know that his father crowed about his Life Membership in the NRA when running for office and, once elected to the Presidency, did his best to demonstrate he'd joined by mistake. IMHO his son is cut from the same cloth. Who can forget his hunting trip in 1999 when he stood out in a field, trying to look comfortable, and showed off the dickey bird he's just bagged. I'd ask you to give me some evidence Bush really does believe in the 2nd Amendment and would stand up for it even if it would hurt him politically but, having seen some of your other posts, don't have feel I have the time to wade through a mountain of BS right now.
69 posted on 07/18/2002 2:35:17 PM PDT by caltrop
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To: Travis McGee
I don't think it's going to get through the Senate mostly due to the opposition of that moron Hollings who chairs the commerce committee. If it does get through I do think Bush would sign it because the polical consequences would be far more negative to veto it than lose Mineta. At least I hope.
70 posted on 07/18/2002 2:36:37 PM PDT by SoCar
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To: Uncle Bill
About TSA
TSA Leadership

Biography of John W. Magaw
Under Secretary of Transportation for Security

On January 28, 2002, Congress confirmed the appointment of John W. Magaw as Under Secretary of Transportation for Security. His task is to implement the Aviation and Transportation Security Act of November 19, 2001. He and his organization, the Transportation Security Administration, are dedicated to elevate the current level of transportation security nationwide

in all modes – air, land, water, and rail.

Mr. Magaw began his career as a trooper with the Ohio State Patrol. He joined the U.S. Secret Service, rose through the ranks over a 26-year period, was in charge of all protective operations for the President and First Family, and was eventually appointed Director of Secret Service.

As Director of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms, Mr. Magaw coordinated and directed policy and organization changes that allowed the bureau to be more diversified and efficient as they recovered from the Waco, Texas, tragedy. [ tradgedy?]
 
Before joining the Department of Transportation, Mr. Magaw was appointed to several executive leadership positions at the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), including Senior Advisor to the Director of FEMA for terrorism preparedness; Acting Director of FEMA, Acting Deputy Director, and as the Acting Executive Director of the Office of National Preparedness.
 
A native of Columbus, Ohio, Mr. Magaw holds a Bachelor of Science degree in education from Otterbein (otter-bine) College, Westerville, Ohio. He has received the

1991 and 1999 Presidential Rank Meritorious Award, and in 1995, received the Presidential Rank Distinguished Award. He is a life member of the International Association of Chiefs of Police, serves on the Executive Committee for the Law Enforcement Explorer program, and is a member of the board of trustees for Otterbein College.

71 posted on 07/18/2002 2:37:19 PM PDT by rdavis84
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To: PJeffQ
Good news!
72 posted on 07/18/2002 2:38:03 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE
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To: caltrop
I'd ask you to give me some evidence Bush really does believe in the 2nd Amendment and would stand up for it even if it would hurt him politically but, having seen some of your other posts, don't have feel I have the time to wade through a mountain of BS right now.

Uh, he appointed John Ashcroft AG. Ashcroft has asserted that the an individual right to own firearms is part of the Constitution.

Your gratuitous insults aside, you've given no evidence that GWB doesn't believe in the 2nd Amendment.

Instead, you bash his father.

You're a hoot!

73 posted on 07/18/2002 2:43:00 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
Bush selected Ashcroft for a lot of reasons, I've no evidence that his position on the 2nd Amendment was the issue Bush found appealing. With all the appointments he had to make, the list of high profile, strong advocates of the 2nd Amendment should be lengthy. Instead, I'm not sure it doesn't stop at Ashcroft and Bolton. I'd like to be corrected if the list is longer.

There wasn't any evidence his father, other than some of his personnel moves, felt as he did until later in his presidency. IMHO, GWB's selection of Magaw in the first place, sent those paying attention a pretty solid early message.

74 posted on 07/18/2002 3:02:08 PM PDT by caltrop
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To: E Rocc
The new guy can't possibly worse than the head of the Clinton-era ATF.

Magaw didn't come up through the ATF but through the SS (Secret Service). He was head of Clinton's security detail, was elevated to SS chief (if I recall), and then was moved into ATF when a few marginally-culpable heads rolled after Waco. He then took charge of the cover-up/CYA operation and effectively protected the organisation from any consequences.

He was actually named ATF head as a reformer, but didn't reform anything. Similarly, his leadership of TSA has been a gravy train for old cronies. Tin ear doesn't half say it. The aviation press particular has been crucifying him (and he has deserved it). One of the first things he did was blow over $100k of the taxpayers' money on an audiophile sound system for his office. This is small as TSA waste goes, but it typifies the arrogance and snobbery that are now core Agency values.

One thing very typical of SS people is that they come to view Americans as existing in two classes: a Ruling/Master/Unchallengable class and a Ruled/Peasant-Serf/Threat class. This attitude has been imported into TSA wholesale. There are no good men in that org, and I think you will find that Loy is also one of Magaw's loyal Clintonistas, someone who sees ordinary Americans as bugs to be crushed.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

75 posted on 07/18/2002 3:03:00 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: PJeffQ
YESSSSSSS!

Mineta ... next?

76 posted on 07/18/2002 3:07:18 PM PDT by bootless
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To: caltrop
IMHO, GWB's selection of Magaw in the first place, sent those paying attention a pretty solid early message.

It sent conspiracy kooks a solid message.

In your world, then, I guess Bush getting rid of Magaw now sends the message that he's pro-2nd amendment, huh?

You're seeing things that aren't there, but that happens a lot around here.

77 posted on 07/18/2002 3:22:38 PM PDT by sinkspur
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To: sinkspur
No, it sent the message that Bush places personal loyalty above just about everything else.

As far as conspiracies go, I'm of the opinion that the government isn't capable of keeping a secret and that Bush isn't bright enough.

If you'd like to believe that Bush, having known Magaw from his father's presidency, didn't know Magaw's views on the 2nd Amendment then I wish you the best in dreamland. My point, and it's only my opinion, is that Bush's support for the 2nd Amendment is based purely on political calculation. As such he'll do no more than he needs to do politically.

78 posted on 07/18/2002 3:36:18 PM PDT by caltrop
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To: SoCar
I also think that the no guns in the cockpit policy is due to Mineta's insistence. IMO, there is no way Bush is against armed pilots.

Last I checked, Mineta works for and at the pleasure of the President. If Bush disagrees, especially on policy as opposed to personnel issues (i.e. Magaw), Bush should either fire him, or at least tell him what the policy is to be, and to carry it out or resign.

79 posted on 07/18/2002 3:45:22 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: caltrop
"I'd ask you to give me some evidence Bush really does believe in the 2nd Amendment and would stand up for it even if it would hurt him politically"


"That’s why I’m for instant background checks at gun shows. I’m for trigger locks."
George W. Bush - Source: St. Louis debate Oct 17,2000.

Republicans - Mandatory Gun Show Background Check Act

MORE INJUSTICE ON THE WAY - Bush GUN CONTROL
"Gene Healy, a Cato Institute scholar, recently provided a thorough exploration of the unintended consequences of one law, the new Bush-Ashcroft plan to federalize gun crimes, known as the Project Safe Neighborhoods program. The unintended consequences of this law are frightening."
NOTE: Same Article in Washington Times.

There Goes the Neighborhood: The Bush-Ashcroft Plan to "Help" Localities Fight Gun Crime, by Gene Healy

"W. Wimps Out on Guns"
The Bush package includes several pet causes of the gun-control lobby, including $75 million for gun locks; $15.3 million for 113 new federal attorneys to serve as full-time gun prosecutors; and $19.1 million to expand a program by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms aimed at preventing youths from obtaining guns. Although Bush stressed that he simply wants to "enforce existing laws," the fine print of Project Safe echoes the gun-grabbing Left's call to ban the importation of high-capacity ammunition clips."

Project Safe Neighborhoods, A Closer Look

LAURA BUSH:
"During her San Diego speech, for instance, she said nothing about the school shooting that occurred 20 miles away in El Cajon the day before, although in a television interview she condemned it, adding that she thinks more gun control laws are needed.

"I think that's very important," she said when asked by CNN whether stronger gun laws are needed."
Source.

EMERSON & THE SECOND AMENDMENT

A Gutless Supreme Court Decision - Gun Control

The Supreme Court Will Never Safeguard Your Gun Rights

Gun Owners Group Takes Aim at Lott

Republican Leadership Help For Gun Control

RON PAUL: "PILOTS vs. BUREAUCRATS"

Pilots Beg Bush to Allow Guns

Homeland Security Director: "I don't think we want to equip our pilots with firearms," Ridge said. "That doesn't make a lot of sense to me." Asked why, Ridge replied, "Where would it end?"

Defenseless pilots

Bush Flying Blind on Armed Pilots Issue

Bush's Assault On Second Amendment

Living in Exile -- Federal prisons are filling up with people whose only crime is gun possession

NEA Resource Text Guide In Regards To The Extreme Right - Where Do Your Kids Go To School?
"The radical right says it is pro-life but it bitterly opposes gun control legislation"

Bush Signs His 26.5 Billion Education Bill
And then, of course, there's Senator Edward Kennedy. And the folks at the Crawford Coffee Shop would be somewhat shocked when I told them I actually like the fellow. He is a fabulous United States senator."

Bin Laden 'received UN cash'

United States Thrown Off United Nations Human Rights Commission

Bush approves payment on back dues to United Nations

BUSH ADMINISTRATION OPPOSES RETALIATION AGAINST UNITED NATIONS

United Nations Day Proclamation {By the President of the United States of America}

Bush Caves on ICC Immunity Demand

The U.N. Is Coming For Your Guns

There's only two sides.

or

A Problem With Guns?

80 posted on 07/18/2002 3:54:32 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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