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This is not the point, and you know it. The point is the persecution of smokers reaching epidemic levels. The state balances its budget on the backs of smokers, but they are still treated like second class citizens. The taxing of cigarettes is a crime wave waiting to happen. Not being able to smoke in one's own car borders on insanity. Termination for one offense borders on criminal. You don't support Nazi tactics in government. Why do you support them in the workplace?

If you don't believe that, then you are no different from those liberals who want to control the posessions and property of others.

Your cruel words to me roll off my back, Dog. My friends know where I stand on this issue.

SheLion and Liberal should never be used in the same breath. And that's a fact!

Companies have a right to determine what goes on on their property, whether it be smoking or non-smoking.

This of course, is exactly what we have been arguing about smoking and non-smoking in restaurants and bars, but the health folks don't see it as a property rights issue.

Having worked very closely with the Ingham County Commissioners and Health Department on the adoption of a county-wide smoke-free worksite regulation, which was enacted on February 12, 2002, we at the Smoke-Free Environments Law Project are aware that General Motors could have sought permission to create designated smoking areas in their plants. Instead, they have opted to 'adopt a wall-to-wall no smoking policy' which applies to 'all employees, contractors and visitors,' effective August 5, 2002.

That partial paragraph bothers me more than anything else about the article.

The company had the option to create designated smoking areas. They chose to go with a total ban, as is their right on their property. Why aren't bar and restaurant owners given the same choice?

It's also awfully dificult to tell an employer to pound sand if you've been there long enough to be vested in their health and retirement plans. Everyone always likes to think, that given the same situation, they'd stand on principle and walk, but in reality it's a pretty dificult thing to do.

Oh well.

For liberty and property.

Companies have a right to determine what goes on on their property, whether it be smoking or non-smoking. If you don't believe that, then you are no different from those liberals who want to control the posessions and property of others.

Perhaps, it is you that is the liberal. It was Hitler that first adopted no-smoking policies. Hitler(a socialist) would be so proud of your support for at least one of his policies. For your information, a public corporation is not a private individual.