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Smoking Ban Hurting Tempe Restaurants
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Posted on 06/23/2002 9:26:10 PM PDT by chance33_98

Smoking Ban Hurting Tempe Restaurants 

Tempe, June 19 (AP) -- It may be a breath of fresh air to walk into restaurants here and not smell smoke, but restaurant and bar owners say they're smothering.

They are asking the City Council to do something to ease the financial pain arising from the new, restrictive anti-smoking ordinance.

A number of owners say revenue is down by as much as 20 percent since the voter-approved ordinance took effect May 30. They plan to outline their concerns during a council meeting Thursday.

"You can either kill yourself with gloom and doom, or you can take the tack that clean air is far better than dirty air," said Lee Fairbanks, who spearheaded the campaign to restrict smoking. "It's healthy, it's better than sitting in a cloud of cancerous smoke."

Since Tempe voters approved the most stringent smoking ban in the area, police have responded to 38 complaints of smokers in bars and restaurants but issued no citations.


TOPICS: Miscellaneous; US: Arizona
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To: KentuckyWoman
I checked out Don's profile page. For all of the good work Don has done, and is doing, he's never worked for himself. That's not necessarily a bad thing, but it does explain his mindset.

For him, and others like him, I recommend multiple readings of Atlas Shrugged. I don't mean that perjoratively...it's a great read, and I'm never able to pick up everthing the first time through!

281 posted on 06/25/2002 6:39:27 AM PDT by Night Hides Not
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To: Don Myers
Go to Post 212. It has already been asked and answered. How did you miss it if you read all of the posts?

Here we go again - To all who take the time to go back and read post # 212, please be sure to see also Post # 278. Seeing as how I am the one that Don is quoting in post 212 - I felt the need to clear up HIS misunderstanding of my post.

282 posted on 06/25/2002 6:50:19 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: Don Myers
Guys like you are worse than the rug heads.

"All enemies, foriegn and DOMESTIC." Guess which you are?

We're bombing the wrong thugs.

283 posted on 06/25/2002 6:58:06 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: ThomasJefferson
"We're bombing the wrong thugs."

Tom, you really have to get back on those meds. Or, those guys in the white coats will be visiting you again.

284 posted on 06/25/2002 7:02:54 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: KentuckyWoman
"Maybe it hasn't occured to YOU specifically but it HAS occured to others of your ilk."

I can tell that I win friends everywhere I go. Maybe, I could visit for Sunday dinner next week?

285 posted on 06/25/2002 7:04:22 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: metesky
"You're a freeping moron. ...Myers cretin did not exist. I will no longer address him or answer him."

I don't normally go a second day on a thread, but I had to address you at least one more time to try to make up. If you don't talk to me again, I just don't know how I will make it through this life, much less even go to sleep tonight.

286 posted on 06/25/2002 7:06:48 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: txrangerette
The tyranny of the majority is a well-known concept.

So just because it's a well known concept makes it right, or makes it so that we shouldn't fight for the actual concept of freedom from tyranny?

291 posted on 06/25/2002 8:26:31 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: txrangerette; Don Myers
Whoops, sorry txrangerette. That post was supposed to go to Don Meyers.
292 posted on 06/25/2002 8:28:15 AM PDT by Just another Joe
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To: Don Myers
Tom, you really have to get back on those meds. Or, those guys in the white coats will be visiting you again.

Childish evasions notwithstanding, you advocate violence against people to force them to do what you want. That might be a symptom of mental illness, or maybe just pure evil. In either case, it isn't me who needs medication.

293 posted on 06/25/2002 8:28:34 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: txrangerette
Sorry txrangerette!! Post 288 and 290 are mine!! -- KentuckyWoman
294 posted on 06/25/2002 8:31:38 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: txrangerette; Don Myers
Okay, fess up Don. Is that you? If so:

Non-smokers just want equal representation.

Not hardly. As I pointed out earlier, non-smokers want to have their cake and eat it, too. They WANT to go into the establishments that they WANT to and have them operated the way they WANT them to. The entire world (or even Country) can not operate in the manner any of us wish. I dislike places that look dirty and avoid them at all costs. That does not, however, give me the right to send in the government goons and make the OWNER live up to my standards any more than your desire to eat in a certain restaurant gives you the right to send in the goons to tell the OWNER of that restaurant that he/she must meet YOUR wishes/desires.

295 posted on 06/25/2002 8:39:50 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: KentuckyWoman
I think the site was hacked. About 45 minutes ago, I went to reply and got "You posting priveledges have been revoked" with "Defending the Taliban" writte below it. I'm fine now, and obviously not banned. Other freepers said they got the same message at the same time. I also heard that freepers were talking on the Yahoo mirror site that they recently had been seeing their posts under others posters names, and getting random access to other people's mailboxes. Maybe Jim has fixed it now that the site is back up.
296 posted on 06/25/2002 8:40:14 AM PDT by FreeTally
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To: FreeTally
hmmm. I didn't get the Taliban message but I saw "txrangerette's" My Posts page and when I tried to re-sign in, I kept getting different people's New Posts To You pages.
297 posted on 06/25/2002 8:50:19 AM PDT by KentuckyWoman
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To: KentuckyWoman
"As I pointed out earlier, non-smokers want to have their cake and eat it, too. They WANT to go into the establishments that they WANT to and have them operated the way they WANT them to. "

We just want a little respect. I can tell that you and I are not going to agree on this subject.

298 posted on 06/25/2002 9:30:17 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: ThomasJefferson
"In either case, it isn't me who needs medication."

At least, try to get a long vacation.

299 posted on 06/25/2002 9:31:17 AM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Just another Joe; txrangerette
txrangerette, it is interesting getting caught in a crossfire. Don't worry about it. He even misspelled my name.
300 posted on 06/25/2002 9:33:57 AM PDT by Don Myers
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