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Bush Pushes Gore Plan For Orwellian Government
NewsWithViews.com ^ | Chuck Baldwin

Posted on 06/12/2002 11:34:46 AM PDT by Sir Gawain

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To: Texasforever
Big CONGRATULATIONS, on the birth of the wee one.

Nighty night, old FRiend. : - )

701 posted on 06/16/2002 1:25:09 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Texasforever;strela;Mo1;nopardons
Damn internet went out on me.

Night all.

702 posted on 06/16/2002 1:26:51 AM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: daiuy
mones

moneo

monet

monemus

monetis

monent

Hmmmmmmmm ... it's been a very long time , dear, but I aim to please.

Name calling is juvenile, dear, I suggest that you stop proving how childish you are.

703 posted on 06/16/2002 1:34:06 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: Marine Inspector;Texasforever;strela
Night guys ; sleep well. : - )
704 posted on 06/16/2002 1:36:49 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons;Marine Inspector;Texasforever;strela
I'm off to la la land myself

Sweet Dreams .. it's been very educational

705 posted on 06/16/2002 1:39:08 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
Me too. Moi aussi. ( that's for the benefit of the child who thinks that I'm " stupido ". I could have added that in several other languages as well, but didn't want to overload his brain; such as it is. I wonder if he understand Afrikaans ...maybe I should have thrown that in, instead of banal French. LOL )
706 posted on 06/16/2002 1:44:32 AM PDT by nopardons
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To: WRhine
And the conditions that went with the amnesty like applying the laws against businesses that hire illegal labor where totally thrown out the window.

They've yet to do any serious enforcing with employer sanctions. And even when the INS does make an attempt, Senators like Hagel jump up and down and complain.

The only thing that's going to bring out enforcement is for the people to start demonstrating in the streets and voting politicians out who are pandering.

707 posted on 06/16/2002 5:32:39 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: nopardons
I have a book like that , too.

It has 'catch-phrases in several languages. I can't speak them either.

708 posted on 06/16/2002 5:38:12 AM PDT by Lower55
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To: nopardons
..."yada, yada, yada ... you aren't knowledgeable, you can't debate, you never stay on topic, and all you ever do is waste badwidth. LOL"...

Well, ain't you special! It figures.....coming from a bimbo that can't be bothered to list all those GIGANTIC differences between the GOP and the DEMS she claims exists.....whose only reason for getting on this thread dealing with how the Bush govt reorg plan is like Gore's govt reinvent. plan seems to be to attack every one else or whatever--anything to remove the topic from how the author of the article perceives both plans....could that be because it is too close to the truth!

709 posted on 06/16/2002 8:29:01 AM PDT by Rowdee
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Neither you, or the rest of the pack in here can get past my last name to think that I may actually have a real opinion here.

.Talk about wearing it on your sleeve! Do you think anyone here is disagreeing with you because of your name?

And if this is your real name, why in hell would anyone use their real name on an internet forum? You seem to be the only one making an issue out of your name

710 posted on 06/16/2002 9:09:06 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Axenolith
Because the enemy within has not been silenced. At any rate that is what they have been doing since the troops hit Afganistan. Killing your enemies does not mean wholesale slaughter of anything that moves. After all we are not Palestians or Moslemaniacs.
711 posted on 06/16/2002 4:18:44 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Because the enemy within has not been silenced. At any rate that is what they have been doing since the troops hit Afganistan. Killing your enemies does not mean wholesale slaughter of anything that moves. After all we are not Palestians or Moslemaniacs.

The enemy that dances in the streets and gives moral and financial support to terrorists is no different than the enemy that went to work in factories producing ME 109's and Panzer IV's. One kills the enemy until they begin to think "you know, this jihad sh*t might not be the brightest idea in the barrel".
If it ends up taking 30 or 40 million of them before they figure this out, then so be it...

712 posted on 06/16/2002 6:11:53 PM PDT by Axenolith
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To: Axenolith
If a crowd outside your house starts dancing and celebrating our hurt I presume it is ok with you if I decide to destroy the entire block and your innocent family.

Stooping to the level of morons is rarely effective. However, I do agree that there will have to be millions of the Islamaniacs killed before the message is securely in place. Unfortunately, right now is not the time it may take a couple of more years of preparation for it.

It can only take place when there is a united nation behind it and the RATS have seen that we do not have that. Hell we don't even have the "Right" completely in line. Too many are still whining about "loss of rights" and nitpicking with Bush and ignore the Big Picture.

713 posted on 06/17/2002 6:38:08 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit
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To: justshutupandtakeit
If a crowd outside your house starts dancing and celebrating our hurt I presume it is ok with you if I decide to destroy the entire block and your innocent family.

Apples and oranges dude, we're talking about people in countries that are, in action if not on paper, at war with us and our allies...

Stooping to the level of morons is rarely effective. However, I do agree that there will have to be millions of the Islamaniacs killed before the message is securely in place. Unfortunately, right now is not the time it may take a couple of more years of preparation for it.

How is attacking the enemy the actions of morons? While I'll admit just slaughtering them wholesale is a bit on the kneejerk side we could still wreck the bulk of the military power that secures the seats of the despots running the show.
The main reason they have the ability to affect the US is because they don't fear the general populace at home (and Iran is a particularly relevant country in this respect as they actually had people demonstrating in SUPPORT of us after 9-11).

It can only take place when there is a united nation behind it and the RATS have seen that we do not have that.

Hell, we didn't have a united nation behind WWII until after Pearl Harbor, 70% were against war with Germany but Roosevelt knew that if Japan could be sped up in their timetable to attack US interests, Germany would honor their treaty commitments and declare war on us...

Hell we don't even have the "Right" completely in line. Too many are still whining about "loss of rights" and nitpicking with Bush and ignore the Big Picture.

Me being one of them! Not one of the actions taken since 9-11 actually insures security to any meaningful extent, it goes far more to securing government control. If I thought it was doing ANY good I'd back it but when we have all this crap with grannies getting the thrice over while Norm "dumb as a hammer" Mineta refuses to allow pilots to carry firearms its just a bit to much...

Additionally, I've found that in my line of work, you can still pretty much walk into any major facility, an orange vest, a clipboard, and seeming to know what your talking about comes close to being the only pass you need...

714 posted on 06/17/2002 7:02:56 AM PDT by Axenolith
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To: nopardons
#1, it is not your place to assign risk of behaviour to these friends.

#2 The vast majority of the terrorists come from Saudi Arabia (90%+)

#3, If members of the "Whats Happenin'" church, were blowing up high schools, wouldn't it be wise to question every member of that church in depth? If any members of the church were found out to be non-citizens, they should be deported as quickly as possible. So it should be with every member, all people of recent arrival from the most likely suspect groups, and every adherent of Islam. At the least, get a read on their likelihood of illegal activity involving terrorism, and deport any that are non-citizens. It is a no-brainer. I see no reason why your friend, would be offended by questions, and could maybe point the officers in the right direction. It is after all, our duty as citizens, to police the nation also.

715 posted on 06/17/2002 9:59:16 AM PDT by jeremiah
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To: Luis Gonzalez
Internment camps or deportation, both are great alternatives to leaving non-citizens to circulate among the general population. If they don't like it, get the -F- out of the country. Of course citizens must be treated differently. It would cause a surge in citizenship applications, and purge out the people that want nothing to do with our country, other than make money.
716 posted on 06/17/2002 10:02:31 AM PDT by jeremiah
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To: Pistias
To be questioned, is not a violation of the Fourth Amendment. You are probably one of those that doesn't have a problem with forcible breathalyzers, or UA tests to get jobs. If that is permissible, why not simply checking on status based on the most likely to be illegal immigrants, or a member of a terrorist group(Like Al Queda) When a man is seen leaving a bar, he can be spot checked for drinking. An Arab is no different. He is much more likely to be a terrorist than a Irish woman, or even a black teenager. Without racial profiling, we refuse to use the best diagnostic tool we have in the drawer, our common sense.
717 posted on 06/17/2002 10:10:53 AM PDT by jeremiah
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To: jeremiah
To be questioned, is not a violation of the Fourth Amendment

And if they don't answer?

718 posted on 06/17/2002 12:38:43 PM PDT by Pistias
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To: Pistias
If they don't answer, the questioners walk away. In America, all are innocent until proven guilty. It should always be so. Sadly it is not for many in this imperfect society. The attempt must be made though, to ferret out the sleepers within this society. The logical place to start is, amongst those more statistically likely to be or know of terrorists.
719 posted on 06/17/2002 1:11:03 PM PDT by jeremiah
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To: Texasforever
> Hell it is obvious. You are NOT in the military yet. You need to join up and show > us what BUTCHERING really means. I will look forward to your letters from the front.


Obviously you're one of those types whose sole arguement against decisive action is going to be "well you haven't been there".

To that i'll answer, maybe not but my dad and grandfather were and I for damn sure would respond if called. Besides, clogging the storm sewers in some sh**hole like Jenin or Gaza with Palestinian blood or the Tigres Euphrates with rotting bodies doesn't necessarily take ground troops...
720 posted on 06/19/2002 11:05:18 PM PDT by Axenolith
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