Rush: Fleischer Flips Back, White House Realigns With EPA Warning Report

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[Sir Gawain]

		y friends, the plot thickens. During Wednesday's program, the White House again shifted their position on the EPA global warming report that has been discussed extensively on this program and subsequently throughout the rest of the media.

		On Tuesday, the president, while at the National Security Agency, was asked about the EPA report, and he said that he read the report by the bureaucracy, and then affirmed his position against the Kyoto Protocol, which states, among many other things, its prominent claim that human activity is responsible for global warming. So, it was assumed by the press corps that he was not accepting that since he was against the Kyoto protocol. But then on Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was asked the following question. Here's a partial transcript: REPORTER: Since the president addressed greenhouse gases, but not specifically global warming, does the president agree with the conclusion that human activity is likely the cause of global warming? FLEISCHER: That's what the president said in his speech in June. REPORTER: Exactly. He does agree with that? FLEISCHER: When the president cites the National Academy of Sciences saying that the National Academy of Science indicates that the increase is due in large part to human activity, I don't know how the president could say it more specifically than that. REPORTER: So he hasn't changed his mind at all? FLEISCHER: No. The bottom line for the president is, number one, he has made a proposal that he believes is a proposal that not only can reduce the problem of greenhouse gases and global warming, but it also protects the American economy, so the American economy can lead the world in technological and scientific advances that also have an effect in reducing pollution. The president has said, citing the National Academy of Sciences, that the increase is due in large part to human activity. The president has also continued, citing both now this report the EPA has sent to the United Nations, previous evidence from the National Academy of Sciences, that there is uncertainty. And the recent report notes that there is considerable uncertainty. That's the state of science, and the president agrees with it.

		The questioning went on and you can hear it for yourself in the audio link below, but Ari Fleischer has now confirmed that the president does believe that human activity is the cause for global warming, and there's no doubt about this now. Fleischer came to this briefing prepared with a statement outlining how the president's view on the causes of global warming have not changed, so they probably were sitting at the White House a little bit angry at the interpretation of what the president said yesterday when he spoke of, "the bureaucracy." So the White House is making it clear in no uncertain terms that the president believes human activity is largely responsible for global warming, that he totally agrees with the EPA report that went out, and that there's no disagreement. Whatever he said about "the bureaucracy" was misread, mis-analyzed, and misunderstood by the press and others. I think what they will say is that there has not been a flip-flop at all, there never was a flip-flop, and they can't help the way the press is going to interpret things. So it's been a roller coaster ride that needn't have left the gate, and here we are: According to the White House, human activity does cause global warming. Now, what I think about this is well known. I have said it before and it would be redundant for me to start repeating myself here, so I'm not going to take the occasion to do it. You know what I think, and you know what you think.

[AAABEST]

I'd like LS's assisnine post in which he attempts to associate me with Neo-Nazis (because I insulted his hero) deleted if you get a chance.

I've never been banned from this board and I hate Nazis.

[al_possum39]

I think a lot of conservatives believe that if you even admit there may be a problem then you must accept the radical solutions. They should keep in mind that liberals say "If it hurts to do that then don't do that" while conservatives say "My life is better if I do that so how can I do that without causing a problem".

[Registered]

All this only matter to Rush who sees himself losing his base of listeners and is now pandering to the libs.......he's just looking for friends poor thing.

Nice job addressing the substance of the article. Brother.

[cake_crumb]

"You all have a voice because of Rush. Rush reinvigorated Conservatism through talk radio and just because he says something that contradicts what the President is doing, you all spit on him"

I'm not spitting on Rush. I have listened to him for years. I respect his opinions. I will continue to listen to him. When I disagree strongly, I simply turn him off. I believe he may be misinterpreting this one.

[Lazamataz]

The questioning went on and you can hear it for yourself in the audio link below, but Ari Fleischer has now confirmed that the president does believe that human activity is the cause for global warming, and there's no doubt about this now.

Your hero has feet of clay.

[rintense]

Let me try to make this clear.

1. From day one, the 'bushbots' have been stating that there has not been a flip flop by the President, no matter what Rush said.

2. Day two, Rush decides that 'his complaints' must have made the WH do a U turn. In fact, there wasn't a U Turn. Look closely at the President's remarks:

QUESTION: Mr. President. Do you plan new initiatives to combat global warming?

BUSH: No - I have laid out that very comprehensive initiative. I read the report put out by the bureaucracy. I do not support the Kyoto treaty. The Kyoto treaty would severely damage the United States' economy. And I don't accept that. I accept the alternative that we've put out - that we can grow our economy and at the same time, through technologies, improve our environment.

The President does not support Kyoto, and neither does the report.

3. Yesterday, Ari Fleischer clarified the President's remarks, that once again stated that he disagreed with the Kyoto Treaty, not the report, and that the President's position has not changed since June 2001.

Now, if there has been once consistency here, it has been the Bushbots pointing out that there has NOT been a U Turn. As a matter of fact, it was the NYT, Rush and Drudge who generated the furor about this alleged U Turn- and now, knowing that it did indeed not occur, are trying to cover their butts.

I guarantee you that if the President had indeed made a U-Turn, flip-flop (whatever), many of the Bushbots would go on record and disagree with him.

But the simple fact remains that there was no u-turn- only sloppy reporting by the NYT, and reactionary misinformation from Rush and Drudge. Rush misinterpreted the President's remarks based solely on his emotion, and now Rush is trying to cover is butt.

[Registered]

I'd apologize if I made as assinine a comment as you made.

[Howlin]

This is nothing except Rush STILL trying to cover his butt from his statements at the beginning of the week.

[Miss Marple]

Just a question, Laz. If there is really global warming going on, would you expect it to be denied based on political preference?

Do you have a background in climatology? I have taken a few courses in it, and looking at the data on the NOAA web site there seems to be some justification for thinking it is going on; I would like to have the data broken down in more detail, because there is a possibility that some of the data can be interpreted differently.

On what basis do you believe that there is NO global warming occurring?

[sinkspur]

Rush is trying to rescue his embarrassed fat ass.

He got shown up by Bush on Tuesday, and he's desperate.

I stopped listening to Rush three months ago because of his interminable whining and his constant golf updates.

Listening to music is better for the blood pressure anyway.

[Howlin]

You mean Rush did not force Georgie to reverse himself???????

:-)

[sinkspur]

The bush mongoloids don't know what they think about anything, just defend the mascott/figurehead at all costs.

Congratulations. First post you've put up in a week that hasn't had the "f" word in it.

[palmer]

But the real cataclysmic danger is the land ice sheet slipping into the ocean.

Ironically the loss of West Antarctic ice could trigger a new ice age. The cataclysm of East Antarctic ice loss has almost zero probability.

[Lazamataz]

Just a question, Laz. If there is really global warming going on, would you expect it to be denied based on political preference? Do you have a background in climatology? I have taken a few courses in it, and looking at the data on the NOAA web site there seems to be some justification for thinking it is going on; I would like to have the data broken down in more detail, because there is a possibility that some of the data can be interpreted differently. On what basis do you believe that there is NO global warming occurring?

Good L-rd.

You really are a True Believer, only on the other side than the Clintonoids.

I believe the many scientists who refute Global Warming, and who point out that our contribution of greenhouse gasses pales in comparison to the contribution of the ocean.

But I am now convinced that if Bush declared that babies deserved to be aborted and that guns caused crime, you'd swing to a pro-choice and anti-gun stance in a heartbeat.

If Bush -- tomorrow -- declares that there is no global warming, or that we are not responsible for it, that you will suddenly align yourself with that position, and vehemently attack anyone who claimed otherwise -- like a compass-needle in an inverted magnetic field.

Miss, I've always gotten along with you, but I respectfully suggest that you are molding your opinions to fit your candidate, rather than the other way around.

[sinkspur]

Until you know wtf you're talking about, shut your and know the truth before you run your empty head.

Well, that didn't last long. "F" "F" "F". You've got a vocablulary like a gansta-rappa.

[palmer]

Hey, you forgot the party line

Not bad except for the last part. If there is climate change it will have both positive and negative impacts.

[rambo316]

Since all of these bureaucracies were created have human sicknesses been reduced? No. they have not. Look at cancer. It is on the rise. My wife manages an Oncologist's office in NYC and there is a significant rise there.

As I said yesterday, these envirowacko bureaucracies are only there to take away our Freedoms by threatening us through Marxist doctrine. The same goes with Nuclear Energy. America is the most regulated country in the world and why is that? I'll tell you. It is because the Communsits in this country have successfully subverted our Constitution to work against Freedom loving Americans.

You know what happens to protesters in Eastern Block countries or countries that don't have a rule of law? They would be shot and killed or run over by tanks or beheaded.

[Eternal_Bear]

Human activity does cause global warming but I believe human technology can fix any problem if wisely applied. I don't believe in the anti-technology hippie crowd.

[rintense]

BTW, we're Bushbots, not Bush Mongoloids.

[Servant of the Nine]

You all have a voice because of Rush. Rush reinvigorated Conservatism through talk radio

Conservtism was reinvigorated by President Ronald Wilson Reagan. Rush was then groomed by Roger Ailes to be a reinforcing, and profitable, supporting voice.

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