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Rush: Fleischer Flips Back, White House Realigns With EPA Warning Report
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Posted on 06/06/2002 6:44:44 AM PDT by Sir Gawain


y friends, the plot thickens. During Wednesday's program, the White House again shifted their position on the EPA global warming report that has been discussed extensively on this program and subsequently throughout the rest of the media.
On Tuesday, the president, while at the National Security Agency, was asked about the EPA report, and he said that he read the report by the bureaucracy, and then affirmed his position against the Kyoto Protocol, which states, among many other things, its prominent claim that human activity is responsible for global warming. So, it was assumed by the press corps that he was not accepting that since he was against the Kyoto protocol.

But then on Wednesday, White House Press Secretary Ari Fleischer was asked the following question. Here's a partial transcript:

REPORTER: Since the president addressed greenhouse gases, but not specifically global warming, does the president agree with the conclusion that human activity is likely the cause of global warming?

FLEISCHER: That's what the president said in his speech in June.

REPORTER: Exactly. He does agree with that?

FLEISCHER: When the president cites the National Academy of Sciences saying that the National Academy of Science indicates that the increase is due in large part to human activity, I don't know how the president could say it more specifically than that.

REPORTER: So he hasn't changed his mind at all?

FLEISCHER: No. The bottom line for the president is, number one, he has made a proposal that he believes is a proposal that not only can reduce the problem of greenhouse gases and global warming, but it also protects the American economy, so the American economy can lead the world in technological and scientific advances that also have an
effect in reducing pollution.

The president has said, citing the National Academy of Sciences, that the increase is due in large part to human activity. The president has also continued, citing both now this report the EPA has sent to the United Nations, previous evidence from the National Academy of Sciences, that there is uncertainty. And the recent report notes that there is considerable uncertainty. That's the state of science, and the president agrees with it.


The questioning went on and you can hear it for yourself in the audio link below, but Ari Fleischer has now confirmed that the president does believe that human activity is the cause for global warming, and there's no doubt about this now.

Fleischer came to this briefing prepared with a statement outlining how the president's view on the causes of global warming have not changed, so they probably were sitting at the White House a little bit angry at the interpretation of what the president said yesterday when he spoke of, "the bureaucracy." So the White House is making it clear in no uncertain terms that the president believes human activity is largely responsible for global warming, that he totally agrees with the EPA report that went out, and that there's no disagreement. Whatever he said about "the bureaucracy" was misread, mis-analyzed, and misunderstood by the press and others.

I think what they will say is that there has not been a flip-flop at all, there never was a flip-flop, and they can't help the way the press is going to interpret things. So it's been a roller coaster ride that needn't have left the gate, and here we are: According to the White House, human activity does cause global warming.

Now, what I think about this is well known. I have said it before and it would be redundant for me to start repeating myself here, so I'm not going to take the occasion to do it. You know what I think, and you know what you think.


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To: Sir Gawain
The Bush babies flip flop around more than their hero-boy. First we were supposed to apologize for daring to associate the admin with the leftist junk science EPA report. Then Fleischer comes out and says the admin stands by it, and all of a sudden it's a good report.

The bush mongoloids don't know what they think about anything, just defend the mascott/figurehead at all costs.

21 posted on 06/06/2002 7:39:38 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: LarryM
Bush has become a sad joke. He panders to the left, gets called on it by his base, flips his position, gets hammered again by leftists and then backs down. Will he stand his ground on anything?

Rush has had a temper tantrum, exactly like a three year old who doesn't get his way. His mind numbed robots are doing just the same.

Bush has stood tall on the Second Amendment aplying to individuals, not States. Not even Reagan was prepared to take that stand although he did believe it.

He has gotten us out of the Kyoto Treaty before it could make us part of the third world.

He did not surrender after 9-11 and offer reparations to offended Muslims, which Al Gore would have done.

That is more than most conservative Presidents have accomplished in a 4 year term.

The conservative base will do him just as much good as it did Goldwater. If he is gonna stay in office and acomplish anything, he has to carry the middle of the road 60%.

Is he not doing everything you and I would like? That is because this is real world politics, not a fantasy novel. A president who stands tall on all his conservative positions is gonna get rolled by Congress 100% of the time.

Stick to your active fantasy life and leave real politics to the grownups.

So9

22 posted on 06/06/2002 7:39:41 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine
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To: Sir Gawain
I believe Bush has been consistant all along. His critics on both sides are the ones who haven't been consistant.
23 posted on 06/06/2002 7:42:10 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: rdavis84
Hmm. I sense the "problem" is rather in the poster.
24 posted on 06/06/2002 7:42:46 AM PDT by LS
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To: AAABEST
Weren't your banned for neo-Nazi stuff on this board once?
25 posted on 06/06/2002 7:44:12 AM PDT by LS
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To: LarryM
Bush has become a sad joke. He panders to the left, gets called on it by his base, flips his position, gets hammered again by leftists and then backs down. Will he stand his ground on anything?

Sheesh, I'm still waiting for the 2800+ lives to be avenged by some serious military response.

26 posted on 06/06/2002 7:45:09 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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To: gaspar
Hello Gaspar. Rush is talking about the EPA Report. Ari is talking about the NAS report.

NAS Climate Report from June 2001

Bush's june 2001 press release on NAS Report

27 posted on 06/06/2002 7:46:45 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: perotista
Hey, you forgot the party line. There is no climate change, and if there is, we have nothing to do with it, and it won't affect us anyway. The one thing I find curious is that the one industry with most to lose if there is a large climate change - the insurance industy - buys into the global warming thesis.
28 posted on 06/06/2002 7:47:31 AM PDT by proud to be breathing
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To: Sir Gawain
Limbaugh needs to get a life, realize that this is a trivial matter, and move on to more important issues before his audience shrinks even more.
29 posted on 06/06/2002 7:49:42 AM PDT by zook
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To: al_possum39
He hasn't exactly made a secret of his position. I don't see what all the hullabaloo is about. If he starts telling us that cars are the root of all evil, like Al, THEN I will worry.
30 posted on 06/06/2002 7:50:15 AM PDT by cake_crumb
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To: Ben Ficklin
Since when did all of my fellow Freepers become Rush bashers?

You all have a voice because of Rush. Rush reinvigorated Conservatism through talk radio and just because he says something that contradicts what the President is doing, you all spit on him. Just like when another Freeper, says something that goes against the Commander-In-Chief, you all start nashing your teeth with disgust.

Free Republic is supposed to where the free exchange words and ideas can be shared without being spat upon. That is why I go to FreeRepublic everyday. I am proud to call myself a Freeper. I tell everybody about this sight.

31 posted on 06/06/2002 7:50:31 AM PDT by rambo316
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To: OldFriend
Maybe Rush should read the Daily Dose. I posted that Ari interchange yesterday, and stated (once again) that there never was a flip flop. Preesident Bush's stance has not changed since June 2001.
32 posted on 06/06/2002 7:52:27 AM PDT by rintense
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To: AAABEST
Bottom line is to win in November. Stop falling into the democrats trap of depressing the right from voting.
33 posted on 06/06/2002 7:52:41 AM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: LS
Weren't your banned for neo-Nazi stuff on this board once? That's low.

No I've never been banned ever, I'm married to someone of a different race than I and I abhor anything remotely connected to Nazi's

Only POS little worm would try to incinuate such without having one single fact. You Bush-brains are all the same, personally attack anyone who dare speak ill of your semi-christ.

Do me a favor. Until you know wtf you're talking about, shut your and know the truth before you run your empty head.

34 posted on 06/06/2002 7:53:11 AM PDT by AAABEST
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To: VRWC_minion
I agree on Bush's consistency. Even yesterday Fleischer said that they agree on greenhouse gas increases as human influenced but he never once stated that warming is due to human influences, only that they agree with the report that says warming might be due to human influences.
It's pretty clear that many other things than CO2 can and do cause warming.
35 posted on 06/06/2002 7:53:38 AM PDT by palmer
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To: Servant of the Nine
Well said.
36 posted on 06/06/2002 7:54:00 AM PDT by Labyrinthos
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To: rambo316
Bush has developed a whole years worth of Climate Policy based on the NAS Report. There are very crucial distinctions between the NAS Report and the EPA report. If you and Rush decline to be informed about that, all I can say is ............
37 posted on 06/06/2002 7:58:40 AM PDT by Ben Ficklin
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To: LS
"Hmm. I sense the "problem" is rather in the poster."

Yeah yeah, the guy's Brilliant.

"After all, a week ago, there were — Yasser Arafat was boarded up in his building in Ramallah, a building full of, evidently, German peace protestors and all kinds of people. They're now out. He's now free to show leadership, to lead the world."George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., May 2, 2002

"The public education system in America is one of the most important foundations of our democracy. After all, it is where children from all over America learn to be responsible citizens, and learn to have the skills necessary to take advantage of our fantastic opportunistic society." —George W. Bush, May 1, 2002

38 posted on 06/06/2002 8:02:20 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: Sir Gawain
From the White House Press Briefing by Ari Fleischer - 06/05/02

Q Ari, if I could change subjects for a second. This morning you said that the President quoted a speech, indicating that the President believes that human activity is largely responsible for the increase in greenhouse gases. But I'm wondering if he also agrees with an EPA report which indicated that human activity is likely the cause of global warming?

MR. FLEISCHER: Let me just read from the President's statement of June 11th on global warming, and let me read from the recent report the EPA submitted to the United Nations. And I think you'll hear that on the key issues, they really sound very, very similar. This is the President on June 11th in the Rose Garden, in a speech where he announced his global warming policies.

"Concentration of greenhouse gases, especially C02, have increased substantially since the beginning of the Industrial Revolution. And the National Academy of Sciences indicate that the increase is due in large part to human activity." That's the President himself speaking.

Here is from the report, page 4, that was just submitted to the United States by the EPA: "Greenhouse gases are accumulating in Earth's atmosphere as the result of human activities, causing global mean surface temperature and subsurface ocean temperature to rise. While the changes observed over the last several decades are due most likely to human activities, we cannot rule out that some significant part is also a reflection of natural variability." And I think what you're hearing is the same thing.

Q I'm glad you make the connection explicitly, since the President addressed greenhouse gases, but not specifically global warming. Does the President agree with the conclusion that human activity is likely the cause of global warming?

MR. FLEISCHER: That's what the President said in his speech in June.

Q That's not exactly what he said. He does agree with it?

MR. FLEISCHER: When the President cites the National Academy of Science as saying that the National Academy of Science indicates that the increase is due in large part to human activity, I don't know how the President could say it more specifically than that.

Q He hasn't changed his mind at all?

MR. FLEISCHER: No. Here's -- the bottom line for the President is, number one, he has made a proposal that he believes is a proposal that not only can reduce the problem of greenhouse gases and global warming, but also protects the American economy, so the American economy can lead the world in technological and scientific advances that also have an effect in reducing pollution.

The President has said, citing the National Academy of Sciences, that the increase is due in large part to human activity. The President has also continued, citing both, now this report the EPA has sent to the United Nations, previous evidence from the National Academy of Sciences, that there's uncertainty -- and the recent report notes that there is considerable uncertainty. That's the state of science, and the President agrees with it. I don't think people dispute that.

Q Its uncertainty, but he can still draw that conclusion, that --

MR. FLEISCHER: He didn't June 11th.

Q He didn't exactly do it, but you're saying it now.

MR. FLEISCHER: Again, when the President cites a report by the National Academy of Sciences that indicates the increase is due in large part to human activity, I think you have two reports that are very similar.

Q Why was he --

Q Why did he call it the bureaucracy yesterday?

MR. FLEISCHER: I think the EPA issued a report that says the same thing. And I think the President was also reflecting about some of the way it was covered, that made it sound as if the report was somehow inconsistent with what he had said previously.


39 posted on 06/06/2002 8:02:36 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: Ben Ficklin
All you can say is......

What?

40 posted on 06/06/2002 8:02:59 AM PDT by rambo316
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