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A Few Questions For Die-Hard Bush Supporters
Toogood Reports ^ | June 5, 2002 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 06/05/2002 1:20:54 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

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To: Howlin
FR sure has been interesting the last couple of days.....this reminds me of the Bloods and Cribs going at it.....:-)
221 posted on 06/05/2002 4:24:34 PM PDT by Dog
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To: prisoner6
I'm registered MISC.

Well I'm a registered Republican and have been all my life.

By dividing consrvatives the democrats will had an open door.

You can't have it both ways. The "Die-Hard Bush Supporters" keep telling us that we don't matter. To take our votes and go. They say we might amount to all of .1% of all the votes the GOP gets. And they are probably right, so "dividing conservatives" is not really the issue, is it? But if the democRATS can use illegal cash to influence (using their mass media) the 70% democRATS and undecided voters ... if democRATS can influence elections through outright voter fraud (like they did in several contests last time) ... if they know they will not even get investigated when they do it (like the last several elections), then they will STEAL the next election buying and creating as many votes as needed.

No one has to act like a cheerleader, just don't destroy what little access we have to the WH .

But those trying to silence all dissent and comment ARE acting like cheerleaders. And if our dissent on this forum makes the WH uncomfortable, then GOOD. They should be uncomfortable with the notion of ignoring serious crimes just because they deem it politically expedient.

I still have faith he might come around next term.

Why? All the reasons given for ignoring the crimes now ... the WOT ... getting moderate support ... etc ... will all remain. Only then it will look a lot more suspicious for the WH to begin investigations.

But why attack the only - admittedly weak - wedge conservatives have and give fodder to the socialists?

Frankly, I'm less worried about "socialists" than those that would ignore the laws that safeguard our election process and system of decision making. Simple economics will take care of socialists provided those socialists don't gain control of a government where the laws don't matter anymore.

222 posted on 06/05/2002 4:25:54 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: sheltonmac;howlin
Haven't you been paying attention? Don't you know what the Dems wanted to do regarding 9.11? Did you not see what Daschle et al were saying regarding Bush' handling of it? Well maybe you missed it since it camoflauged in with your and many others here on FR so well. Let me ask you this:

How is your criticism of Bush any different than any democrats?

223 posted on 06/05/2002 4:26:14 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
People here just don't "get it"..

Everything the dems have tried to bring down Bush's poll numbers has failed....so now they will try to peel Bush away from his base.

We are only defeating ourselves with all this infighting.....bet you the DU crowd is eating this up tonight!

224 posted on 06/05/2002 4:30:23 PM PDT by Dog
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To: AmericaUnited
Taking note of my post #190, here's what Pat Buchanan said, 9/26/99 - CNN LATE EDITION:

"Ronald Reagan was in my judgment the greatest president of the 20th century...

Now I agree with Pat. Reagan - perfect no, the greatest yes.

But, just to show how pathetic some of the perpetually un-happy whiners are, I am going to research all of the gripes these same folks were saying about Reagan at the end of his second term.

225 posted on 06/05/2002 4:30:55 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: Real Cynic No More
All 2500 of us?

Believe it not, through threads such as this we may be influencing 100000's of potential voters ... the lurkers who read these threads and the people they talk to. We may be influencing some in government who stop by to feel the pulse of their "supporters". We might even influence some in the media who to reading what is written on this forum. Or are you a "cynic"? :)

226 posted on 06/05/2002 4:32:19 PM PDT by BeAChooser
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To: PhiKapMom
Since we are continually being bashed on here along with the President we support, would you like us all to just pick up and leave Free Republic along with our donations? Then you can all have this forum to yourself to trash at will.

Is everything just fine when everyone agrees with you but when there is disagreement you want to leave?

I am tired of the continual sniping and trashing of my President and those of us that support him. If this is what conservatives are all about, then I am not Conservative --

You are now understanding what the Clinton supporters felt.

You are supporting a president who's actions do NOT conform to Conservative thought. Maybe if you and others would start by admitting that Bush is much closer to a Moderate than a Conservative mush of the heat would dissipate. Half the argument is whether or not Bush is a Conservative.

I am just a flat out a Republican who happens to consider Taking Back the Senate and Keeping the House as my #1 priority.

Even that statement goes agains the grain of the forum. This isn't a Pro-Republican come-hell-or-high-water forum, but one to advance Conservative ideas. Constitution first, not party first.

What do you have if you gain the world and lose your soul, I think is what some famous teacher once said.

227 posted on 06/05/2002 4:32:25 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Darth Sidious
I do not agree with most of the things that have been done in the name of home-land security. But as long as those laws are fastened with rigid sunset clauses to prevent them from becoming permanent, like the Homeland security bill was, then I'll go along with it for the time being.

During the Civil War, rights like Habeous Corpus and others were suspended by Lincoln. Critics said it was the end of Democracy. They were wrong.

During the Second World War, the same thing. The critics said the same thing. They were wrong.

Nothing as drastic as occurred then is going on now and the critics are bringing the curtain down on Democracy once again. I'm willing to bet they're wrong, again. And if I'm wrong, well I still have my guns. And there's still the ACLU. They're idiots, but they can be useful idiots.

"People like myself" have not rolled over to expose our necks to the boot of totalitarianism. But neither are we running around like chickens with our heads cut off proclaiming the end of the world. Reports of the Republics demise are a bit premature at this point.

228 posted on 06/05/2002 4:33:01 PM PDT by PsyOp
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To: Diddle E. Squat
These folks are self-appointed armchair analysts. I bet not a one of the gripers have every written a piece of legislation, ever amended a piece of legislation, or ever gotten a piece of legislation through a Democrat-controlled legislative branch. I have. Government and politics are a lot more complex than simply sitting around and trashing those in the arena.

"My way or the highway." If these whiners sit on their hands in the 2004 election, it will probably mean Bush loses 0.0013% of the votes he got in 2000. They are a pimple on the bum of the body politic.

229 posted on 06/05/2002 4:33:52 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Eagle Eye
What do you have if you gain the world and lose your soul

I'm guessing it would look something like you.

230 posted on 06/05/2002 4:34:32 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Dog
bet you the DU crowd is eating this up tonight!

I get your point, but that group is so utterly beneath us that why would you give them parity. I care as much what they think as I care what a bunch of homeless winos in the Bronx think.

231 posted on 06/05/2002 4:35:47 PM PDT by AmericaUnited
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To: BeAChooser
through threads such as this we may be influencing 100000's of potential voters

Don't think so highly of yourself. See the final comment in Post 229.

232 posted on 06/05/2002 4:36:01 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: My2Cents
There are Broken-Glass Conservatives, and then there are Broken-Record Conservatives.

Then there are CINO moderates.

Do you really want to digress into name calling? I think we can do better.

233 posted on 06/05/2002 4:37:01 PM PDT by Eagle Eye
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To: Southack
You da' man. Thanks for making sense of it all.
234 posted on 06/05/2002 4:37:06 PM PDT by willgetsome
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To: rdb3
>>>I believe that a user-moderated forum could be used as well<<<

aH yES, tHE gOOD oLD dAYS on fREErEPUBLIC ..sure do miss them..

235 posted on 06/05/2002 4:37:50 PM PDT by Tourist Guy
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To: Dog; PhiKapMom
I'm beginning to believe PKM is right. We can't get anything done here; these people don't WANT anything to do with Bush in office; they're still waiting for "one of their own" to get the office. They are NOT ever going to work with us; they've been against Bush from the very beginning; they are working against him every single minute.

With such a defeatist, unappeasable attitude, we might be better off just to let them have the "conservative" moniker and just be plain old Republicans, a word I happen to admire.

They way they are going, the word "conservative" is never going to mean anything except mean and nasty anyway.

236 posted on 06/05/2002 4:38:31 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Poohbah
Bump!
237 posted on 06/05/2002 4:39:51 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: bybybill
>>What on earth are you trying to do? The next thing you and Rush will do is call for GWB`s impeachment. Why did you ignore the tax cut,9/11, and Bushs poll numbers? You have an obvious agenda and it is distructive. Time for you to go back to your rat buddies.<<

Hysterical that GWB is dared questioned?

238 posted on 06/05/2002 4:40:36 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: PsyOp
Interesting you mention habeus corpus. If one wants to generate as much self-righteous clap-trap as these Bushbashing threads generate, try posting an article praising Abraham Lincoln. The same folks who think Bush is a socialist think Lincoln was a totalitarian.
239 posted on 06/05/2002 4:40:42 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: Diddle E. Squat
"Always disappointed that a conservative utopia isn't reached in one fell swoop, never satisfied, first to complain, yet never seeming to offer a realistic blueprint to actually accomplish anything. "

Actually you know what would make us "perpetual gripers" happy? If we could get a president who would simply do no harm. No one expects utopia.

If congress and the president would just stop trying to fix every little thing with a new law, a new agency, a new program. Just stop growing,intruding, taxing. Just stop! That would make us happy. Congress should be in session no more than 1 month a year and please, they need to follow the constitution.

240 posted on 06/05/2002 4:42:07 PM PDT by monday
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