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A Few Questions For Die-Hard Bush Supporters
Toogood Reports ^ | June 5, 2002 | Lee R. Shelton IV

Posted on 06/05/2002 1:20:54 PM PDT by Stand Watch Listen

Let me just say up front that I am not addressing you if you voted for George W. Bush in 2000 and regret it. The same goes for those of you who voted for Bush and insist on holding his feet to the fire on the important issues. If, however, you cast your vote for Bush, still believe he is the only hope for America and intend to support every move he makes without so much as a raised eyebrow, this is for you.

It has been nearly a year-and-a-half since George W. Bush, the savior of conservatism, descended from on high to begin his earthly reign in Washington, D.C. Republicans assured us that he would restore integrity to the White House and would be a marked improvement over the promiscuous Bill Clinton. Well, in all honesty, that could have been accomplished by electing a neutered chimp to the office of president.

During the 2000 presidential campaign, George W. Bush the man proved to be a nice break from Bill Clinton and Al Gore. Unlike Gore, Bush had a more likable...well, he actually had a personality. He also possessed the unique ability to address the American people without the smug and condescending vibe Clinton exuded. However, when it came to policy, George W. Bush the candidate failed to demonstrate that he would govern any differently than his Democrat counterparts.

Still, throughout the campaign, there was a loyal group of Bush supporters who would take offense at even the slightest implication that their candidate was anything but a staunch conservative. Even now, they continue to stand by their man, and I find this to be rather perplexing.

Perhaps those who have pledged their undying allegiance to President Bush could answer a few questions for me, in no particular order of course:

•  How would you have reacted if Bill Clinton had signed the Patriot Act into law and given the government sweeping new surveillance powers?

•  Would you have criticized a Democrat president for signing a $26 billion education-spending bill?

•  Did you feel betrayed when Bush signed Campaign Finance Reform into law?

•  What do you think about Bush's position on granting amnesty to hundreds of thousands of illegal immigrants?

•  Would you have tolerated a Democrat proposal for federally funded faith-based initiatives?

•  What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had said, "No one should have to pay more than a third of their income to the federal government"?

•  What do you think about the president's granting of Permanent Most Favored Nation status to China?

•  What's the difference between Bush and the Democrats on the issue of farm subsidies?

•  How would you react if a Democrat president sent a $2.13 trillion budget to Congress?

•  Would you have stood for a Democrat saying "No!" to arming airline pilots?

•  What would your reaction have been if a Democrat had pushed for the federalization of airport security?

•  Are you willing to stand by and let the Bush administration cater to the environmentalists on the global warming issue?

•  What do you think about Bush's call for a Patient's Bill of Rights?

•  What one thing has Bush done that sets him apart from the Democrats?

•  It's been a year-and-a-half since Bush took office. When do we start to see a decrease in the size and scope of government? For that matter, when do we start to see even a remote indication that this administration will think about doing anything to try to limit the federal government?

This list is by no means exhaustive, but I would really be interested in some answers. Perhaps it would help shed some light on the mindset of modern compassionate conservatives.

The fact that a Republican president is governing like a Democrat isn't surprising. What's amazing to me is that there are a few select Bush supporters out there who cannot—or will not—utter one word of criticism against their president for any reason. In their minds this man is the epitome of conservatism, and to question his actions would be to question their own beliefs and cause them to wonder why they supported him in the first place.

The way I see it there can only be two explanations for this: 1) these people really and truly believe in what Bush is doing, or 2) they do not wish to face up to the real reason they voted for him — he was simply a slightly more palatable choice than Al Gore.



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To: Southack
HEY add me to your list will ya? you said everything i was gonna say lol
262 posted on 06/05/2002 4:57:47 PM PDT by ATOMIC_PUNK
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To: Dog
they arent peeling Bush away; they are decieving people into believing their lies. The media finally swallowed up those who said they would never believe it.
263 posted on 06/05/2002 4:58:04 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Howlin
Yep, I just wanted to note how while he and I probably agree on 80% or more of the issues, Broken Record Conservatives never factor that in. Its always all or nothing, us versus them.
264 posted on 06/05/2002 4:58:12 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: PhiKapMom
>>Are you with us in 2002 or are you going to continue to try and split out the conservatives in order to follow your own agendas?<<

I know you are addressing this to Stand Watch Listen, but it might be more appropriate to ask this same question of the president, don't you think?

265 posted on 06/05/2002 4:58:28 PM PDT by SerpentDove
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To: Dog, ArneFufkin, rintense, GrampaDave, Howlin, MissMarple, PhiKapMom, ohioWfan, Southack, kayak,
What's going on here is the Reform Party Orphans are here doing what they do best. TEAR EVERYTHING DOWN. Pat Buchannan and Ross Perot gave us Bill Clinton with there Radical Fundamentalism of trashing anything and everything that doesn't follow their self described pure ideology.

Now that the Reform Party has been cannibalized by them, their here wanting to do the same. If we don't stop them we will see a repeat of 1992 and this time the list of candidates the RATS have to offer will end any hope of stopping the liberals grip on the Nation.

See, these visionless nut bags want it all RIGHT NOW, They expect this President to drop all politics and veto anything that isn't approved by them, they want the President to ignore the fact that the Public wanted the social spending he promised during his campaign, they want him to ignore the fact that BY LAW he had to produce a environmental study by June 3rd, 2002, and they also wanted him to ignore what his scientist said about Greenhouse Gases and what MIGHT be causing them and just leave it out of the report. NOT that Joe Lieberman wouldn't call for an investigation on why he ignored these findings. You see they want it NOW, no small incremental steps, just RIGHT NOW.

What these bashers need to realize is George W. Bush doesn't need them nor does he want them, They are trouble where ever they go, their knee jerk whining would turn off any blind deaf and dumb American. Very much like the far left, they're the extreme. Loud, uncontrollable, destructive and repulsive to most Americans

266 posted on 06/05/2002 4:58:35 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: rdb3;jim rob;howlin
toogoods is a liberal waste site. likely funded in part by william rivers pitt. why is this crap still on FR?
267 posted on 06/05/2002 4:59:21 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: Miss Marple,anniegetyourgun
Ping!
268 posted on 06/05/2002 5:01:50 PM PDT by ruoflaw
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To: SerpentDove
Go back and read the rest of what I wrote (or did I exhaust your vocabulary?)...You say the campaign finance law is unconstitutional. How do you know? That's your opinion. But who gave you the right to declare what laws are constitutional and which are not? In fact, who gave the President the authority to declare what bills are constitutional and which are not? Seems to me the Constitution you claim to respect gives that authority to the judiciary. I had this debate with someone on FR when the bill was signed, and he actually said that a President had the authority to ignore whatever LAWS(!) he thought were unconstitutional. It seems that kind of exercise of power is called "dictatorship."

Go read the Constitution. Or barring that, take a Government 101 class at your local JC.

269 posted on 06/05/2002 5:02:34 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: MJY1288
The Reform Party? Oh, I remember them, they couldn't fight their way out of a MEETING room at a Holiday Inn Express.

You know what is so odd? I saw Buchanan on TV this very week and guess what -- he said he TRUST Bush and Ashcroft. Was ALL behind them.

I guess some people didn't get the message.

270 posted on 06/05/2002 5:02:34 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: MJY1288
Now that the Reform Party has been cannibalized by them, their here wanting to do the same. If we don't stop them we will see a repeat of 1992 and this time the list of candidates the RATS have to offer will end any hope of stopping the liberals grip on the Nation.

I think we're past that worry. They either stayed home, voted for Buchanan/Foster, became Phillipians, or voted Libertarian as a "protest vote," smug in their assurance that Al Gore would become the President.

Their plan imploded. Now they've been shown up for what they are: impotent. They've lost their leverage, and they are mad as hell.

271 posted on 06/05/2002 5:02:45 PM PDT by Poohbah
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To: Howlin
They make me sick too....But when I see ignorant, vicious, historical revisionism (aka "lies"), it makes me furious, and someone has to defend the truth.
272 posted on 06/05/2002 5:04:16 PM PDT by My2Cents
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To: SerpentDove
I can guarantee you he will be out stumping for GOP candidates. Its obvious that they think control of Congress, and particularly the Senate, is crucial for anything meaningful and reforming to be accomplished. And he's already been out to CA to support Simon. Won't be his last trip there, either.
273 posted on 06/05/2002 5:04:23 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: MJY1288; PoohBah
If we don't stop them we will see a repeat of 1992

They are threatening it right on these threads.

274 posted on 06/05/2002 5:04:24 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: NMC EXP; mafree; mhking; CaptBlack
Do you disagree with Tom, or are you just splitting semantic hairs?

Actually, yes I do disagree with Tom. First off, the Declaration does not carry the force of law. This nation was not built off of the Declaration, but the Constitution. Two completely separate documents that really aren't even reconciled with each other.

All men are NOT created equal. But society owes the individual equal status before the law.

I'm 6' 6" tall. Are you?

I can do a 360-degree slam dunk. Can you?

I can hit a golf ball 340-yards down the fairway consistently. Can you?

You probably are capable of doing things that I could only dream of.

Get the point?

But let's talk turkey here. When Thomas Jefferson wrote these words, he didn't mean them. Did he? Talk to me, now!

But that's another topic.

However, I do appreciate the underlying message of what he wrote.

Next question.


275 posted on 06/05/2002 5:04:30 PM PDT by rdb3
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To: Stand Watch Listen
Before I spend any time getting into the specifics of the item you posted, please define "conservative" and "liberal."

It is worth remembering that George W. Bush as a candidate did not present himself as a conservative, but rather a "compassionate conservative." Without attempting to define the term, there is no question it implies that he would govern with a center-right approach. Seems to me that he has done precisely that.

276 posted on 06/05/2002 5:05:59 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Diddle E. Squat
80 percent? You're doing better than I am!
277 posted on 06/05/2002 5:07:01 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Diddle E. Squat
I wish you could hear the loud applause I am giving your post. Thank you for truth expressed in a few well-chosen words.
278 posted on 06/05/2002 5:07:29 PM PDT by Wolfstar
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To: Poohbah
All I would like to see is the good people here on FR not to be discouraged by these orphans, they're just blowhards and we are all they have left to destroy.
279 posted on 06/05/2002 5:08:03 PM PDT by MJY1288
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To: rdb3
First off, the Declaration does not carry the force of law

Neither do the Ten Commandments, in your apparent worldview.

Regards

J.R.

280 posted on 06/05/2002 5:08:08 PM PDT by NMC EXP
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