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To: Clifdo
HE lost you. Somewhere around the point, you were unsophisticated enough to understand Political Strategy.Rush did a good job of pointing it out yesterday.

Can you tell me what the Dems signature issue going into the Midterm elections are? Education? Nope, They were Outflanked, when he teamed up with Kennedy. The Environment? Nope, he just bought up the rights to the Everglades. Social Security ? Nope, the truth is on his side there. Change, for Changes sake? not with him between 70% and 90% popularity. Enron? nothing there .....They have Zilch Zero Nada.
Are you starting to get it yet? It is generally refered to as removing the bullets from your enemies guns.
And like it or not, In order to promote any conservative ideal, one MUST BE ELECTED INTO OFFICE, so by extension, THAT IS THE ULTIMATE CONCERN.

Right now, today, what he needs most, to effect lasting CONSERVATIVE change is +2 in the Senate. Then we can fill Judgeships, and maybe get a couple more conservatives on SCOTUS. He will not have a Warren Rudman to bring him a Souter.

Now a brief instruction in to what he has done...


* secured passage through Congress of a $1.35 trillion tax cut
* gave working American's a stimulus tax cut
* proposed the largest increases in military spending since Reagan
* singed two military two pay raises & increased medical/housing benefits
* threw out the Kyoto protocol
* disposed of the ABM Treaty
* eliminated taxpayer funding of overseas abortions
* has openly and strongly supported Taiwan
* made no deal for release of the EP-3 plane crew from Red China
* secured initial funding for a NMDS (SDI)
* promoted increases for off shore oil drilling
* has strongly advocated drilling in ANWR
* pushed for building more nuclear power plants
* campaigned to reduce our dependency on oil imports
* repealed many last minute Clinton EO`s
* campaigned for partial privatization of Social Security
* offered faith-based alternatives to traditional welfare
* stopped gov't funding for further destruction of human embryo's
* nominated conservative judges to the federal bench
* returned honor, dignity and trust to the Presidency
* recognized 2ND amendment/RKBA as individual right, fully constitutional
* told Cuba/Castro trade embargo stays

He is currently having what is best in life.....

"What is best in life? To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women..."

15 posted on 06/05/2002 9:17:32 AM PDT by hobbes1
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To: The Old Hoosier
Hey, you're great at analysis. Comments?
17 posted on 06/05/2002 9:26:30 AM PDT by Registered
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To: hobbes1
He is currently having what is best in life..... "What is best in life? To crush your enemies. To see them driven before you. And to hear the lamentations of their women..."

Good for him. But I was kinda hoping he’d shrink the size of government and its influence in our lives.

If listening to the lamentations of Eleanor Clift is more important to you, this must be a wonderful time.

24 posted on 06/05/2002 9:37:26 AM PDT by dead
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To: hobbes1
Great list, thanks. You neglected his success in the war on terror though. ;)
31 posted on 06/05/2002 9:50:58 AM PDT by usconservative
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To: hobbes1
Right now, today, what he needs most, to effect lasting CONSERVATIVE change is +2 in the Senate. Then we can fill Judgeships, and maybe get a couple more conservatives on SCOTUS.

On the SOCTUS issue.

1. There are no openings right now.

2. Even with a +2 in the senate, a true conservative would have a tough time being confirmed.

The problem is not being one seat short in the senate, it's lack of conservative leadership.

I don't have a bit of confidence that bush would nomiate a conservative.

32 posted on 06/05/2002 9:52:02 AM PDT by WhiteGuy
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To: hobbes1
hobbes1 said: "Right now, today, what he needs most, to effect lasting CONSERVATIVE change is +2 in the Senate. Then we can fill Judgeships, and maybe get a couple more conservatives on SCOTUS. "

Absolutely. Only the Supreme Court has the power to reverse the terrible slide into socialism and tyranny that passes for Constitutional government today.

If Bush accomplishes nothing other than strengthening the Constitution in the Supreme Court, it will have an impact which will outlast any other accomplishments he might consider.

37 posted on 06/05/2002 9:58:40 AM PDT by William Tell
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To: hobbes1, sonofliberty2, HalfIrish, NMC EXP, OKCSubmariner, Travis McGee, t-shirt, DoughtyOne, SLB
I've seen this vaunted list of Bush accomplishments before and it simply doesn't wash for the reason that many if not most of the accomplishments you list as conservative are in fact betrayals of the conservative cause. See the list below for specific examples.

The Real Bush Record
3-29-02 (since modified)
rightwing2


* Began implementation of his plan to unilaterally disarm the US of 75% of its strategic deterrent, which will eliminate the US as a nuclear superpower and permit the Sino-Russian alliance to supplant the US as the most powerful political and military force on the planet. It will also make the world safe for nuclear war by eliminating the US ability to deter nuclear attack from the superior nuclear forces of the Russian Federation.

* Supported anti-nuke wacko proposals to ‘de-alert’ much of our remaining nuclear triad making it impossible to fire except within several days or weeks upon the decision being made to do so.

* Agreed to continue the Democrap Congress mandated ban on nuclear testing, which his father opposed.

* Supported a Clinton initiated Army Transformation plan which will unilaterally disarm the Army of all of its war-winning main-battle tanks and tracked vehicles including the Crusader SP artillery system.

* Attempted to forge a strategic partnership with prime 9-11 terrorist state sponsor Iran in the misnamed “war against terrorism” in addition to other terrorist state sponsors like Syria and the Sudan.

* Appeased Communist China and embarrassed his country by disgracefully apologizing to the Communist Chinese hostagetakers who kidnapped the brave crew of the EP-3 recon plane they forced down.

* Appeased Communist China with an executive order legalizing the sale of computers 50-100 times as powerful as those sold under Clinton’s watch during the Chinagate scandal which caused Rep. Henry Hyde, Chairman of the International Relations Committee to remark that these 600 US supercomputers purchased by Communist China gave it “more computing power than the entire Department of Defense.”

* Forced a vote in Congress on permanent Most Favored Nation trade status with and WTO membership for Communist China so that the PRC would continue to enjoy a $100 billion a year trade surplus with which to build themselves into the best nuclear superpower enemy US trade surplus can buy.

* Refused to support repeal of the 1994 Clinton gun-ban and championed tougher implementation of all draconian gun-control legislation now on the books by pledging to throw gun-control violaters into prison and throw away the key.

* Forced a stealth vote on the amnesty of two million illegal aliens in the House of Represenative as the first step in a much broader amnesty plan to effect millions more.

* Passed the radical Ted Kennedy education bill which federalizes education and providing tens of billions more a year for the liberal Department of Education and NEA to foist their perverse atheist liberal dogma upon our children.

* Appointed as the head of the Supreme Court Justice nominee search team and announced that the front-runner for his first Supreme Court pick is White House Counsel Albert Gonzales, a pro-abortion liberal who as Bush’s appointed Texas Supreme Court Justice found Bush’s own tepid parental notification on abortion legislation to be constitutionally impermissible. Why didn’t Bush appoint earstwhile pro-life champion Attorney General John Ashcroft to lead the Supreme Court nominee search team?

* Championed a Kyoto Lite Plan to appease the environmental wackos.

* Sent a report to the UN on climate change and the profound and very much imagined and fanciful “danger” of global warming.

* Signed the Democrat Congressional Majority Insurance Bill which, when implemented, will have the effect of bringing a permanent end to the hard-won Republican majority in Congress and making it much more difficult for Republicans to get elected nationwide.

* Left 99.9% of Clinton’s last minute unconstitutional executive orders in place.

* Championed and increased funding for Clinton’s fascistic AmeriKorps national service program

* Repealed only one of Clinton’s infamous four pro-abortion executive orders, which Clinton signed on the first day of his Presidency in January 1993 to reward the militant pro-abortion feminist constituency. Clinton’s pro-abortion executive orders had in turn repealed Ronald Reagan’s and President Bush’s own father’s pro-life executive orders. The Clinton executive orders concerned federal funding of international family planning agencies that fund and encourage abortions abroad, mandated that military hospitals offer abortions, mandated that federally-subsidized family planning clinics offer abortion as an alternative to women seeking counseling and provided federal funding for the harvesting of stem cells from aborted babies. President Bush repealed only the first although he has continued to support Congressional funding to provide funding to international organizations that themselves fund abortions abroad.

* Repealed his own temporary ban on continued federal funding for the harvesting of stem cells from aborted babies.

* Hosted Communist President Dos Santos of Angola only days after his assasination of Reagan's favorite anti-Communist freedom fighter, Dr. Jonas Savimbi failing to utter one word of protest over this assassination which was a flagrant violation of the peace process which Bush claimed to support.

* Refused to campaign with or do a TV commercial for conservative gubernatorial Republican nominee for Governor Mark Earley when all post-election polls and studies show that had he done so the Repubilcans would have won the Governorship and the Lt Governorship, whereas the Democrap candidates narrowly won both, subjecting my home state to Democrap rule for the first time in 8 years.

* Championed the election of moderate to liberal candidates in state primaries nationwide including most notably Richard Riorden for Governor of California, a RINO to the left of Bill Clinton who has championed partial birth abortion, gay rights, endorsed scores of Democrap incumbents and has contributed hundreds of thousands of dollars to Democrap candidates.

* Engineered a successful takeover attempt of the once-conservative California Republican Party by arch-liberal Gerald Parsky who has called for the California Republican Party to be pro-gay, pro-abortion, and pro-illegal immigrant as the only way to win elections and denounced moderate conservative GOP gubernatorial nominee Bill Simon as an extremist for being pro-life. This one Bush mistake alone will likely prevent an otherwise likely GOP victory in the critical California Governor's race in November due to Parsky's continuing refusal to support Simon or help him raise money.

* Championed a globalist Free Trade for the America's Treaty which would serve as the precursor to uniting the Western Hemisphere into a North American Union similar to the EU.

* Supporting the entry of Russia into NATO as a full-voting de-facto member with veto power ,which will mean the complete and permanent end of NATO as a military alliance capable of opposing Russian and Communist aggression.

* Submitted the first unbalanced budget to Congress in five years with deficits in the $200 billion range for the next few years.

* Opposed the Israel’s efforts to defend itself from Palestinian terrorist suicide bombers and called for the immediate withdrawal of Israel from “the occupied territories”, of which Israel's claim is at least as great as that of the Palestinians.

* Supported the creation of a Palestinian state led by longtime PLO terrorist leader Yassir Arafat, something even Bill Clinton refused to do.

* Signed an $80 billion farm subsidy bill reversing the hard won gains of the GOP Congress which had nearly succeeded in phasing out this FDR-era socialistic govt subisidy.

* Refused to investigate numerous Clinton crimes against the Constitution and instead attempted to help cover them up.

* Courted the homosexual vote by speaking to homosexual groups and appointing prominant homosexuals to influential positions in the Department of Health and Human Services and the Department of Defense.

Sure Bush has done some good things. However, as you can see Bush's overall bipartisan "moderate" record and betrayals of the conservative Republican cause are very much widespread and not limited to merely a few isolated incidents. I am all too willing to support a united front except when it does more to advance the liberal Clintonite agenda as Bush has done. I put my allegience to conservative principles and party first, not to any one man who in this case has betrayed both.
38 posted on 06/05/2002 10:00:44 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: hobbes1
Post #15 rocks!
94 posted on 06/05/2002 11:06:51 AM PDT by Southack
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To: hobbes1
"Somewhere around the point, you were unsophisticated enough to understand Political Strategy."



Of course, another possibility is that he is far-sighted enough to realize that the long term viability of a political movement is much more important than the short term political victory of a particular party. Look at the history of Classical Liberalism, they foresook principle for short term political gain. The end result was that liberalism became the chief promoter of what it originally set out to oppose. That is the ULTIMATE political failure. At the present rate, conservatism will join liberalism on the "me too" choir of those promoiting ever expanding government. Where does that leave those who hold to the ideal of constitutionally limited government?........Politically Homeless!!!!!
101 posted on 06/05/2002 11:22:52 AM PDT by rob777
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To: hobbes1
"* repealed many last minute Clinton EO`s"

For the record, which ones?

113 posted on 06/05/2002 11:45:55 AM PDT by rdavis84
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To: hobbes1
Also cancelled US membership/ratification in the International Criminal Court
116 posted on 06/05/2002 11:53:29 AM PDT by Starwind
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