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Limbaugh excoriates Bush on global warming
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| Tuesday, June 4, 2002
Posted on 06/03/2002 11:43:15 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: *Global Warming Hoax
To: Libertarianize the GOP
The way I see it, we conservatives have always held principles to be more important than the man. We criticized the Rats for their weathervane policies and their worshipping of Bill Clinton as though he could do no wrong. And here when we're doing the same thing, the defense from some quarters on here is its politics and the President knows what he's doing. Now if this same defense were applied to Clinton, it would be roundly condemned and ridiculed as pandering to the lowest common denominator and elevating the President to an absolute dictator. The thing is when President Bush breaks faith with the base, there's this tendency to excuse it instead of reproving him for it and insisting he uphold the principles that our movement is dedicated to and to fulfill the conservative agenda in the work of our government. If Rush is excoriating the President, its out of a sense of responsibility to keep him from continuing on a course that is detrimental both to his political future and to the future of this great country. Let's hope President Bush takes it to heart for he will thank us for it later.
To: goldstategop
To: Libertarianize the GOP
I contributed to that thread. We need more conservative principle and less pandering to liberals.
To: Libertarianize the GOP
Rush is asking the wrong questions.
He wants to know whether there were any warning signs that the conservative movement was being "hijacked" (to spin on the navel-gazing of our intelligence operations as of late). What he needs to be asking is:
1) Why did he fail to see Bush's policy of compromise and capitulation while Governor of Texas? The record was there. He never bothered to look.
2) Why did he fail to notice when Bush brought aboard Norman Mineta and some leftist types in the Republican party into his cabinet that perhaps they would be able to influence policy?
3) Does the Republican Party suffer from "Battered Wife Syndrome"? Are Republicans so used to being abused by Democrats that they cannot assert their own power to lead themselves? Why is it that the **minority party** continues to set the agenda and get what they want while the **majority party** knuckles under to their will, offering only half-hearted liberalism not federal rollback conservatism??
The answer to the first two are obvious. In his zeal to see a Republican in the White House again, Limbaugh and many other leaders in the conservative movement simply failed to see what Bush really was. A conservative that was all hat and no cattle in his conservatism. Talks a good game, sounds real convincing but rarely stands up to the Democrats when it counts. The answer to the third question gets clearer every day. We have a party so accustomed to being kowtowed that they'd rather be beaten up than to stand on principle. And it looks like this will get worse before it gets better.
Limbaugh is late to the party. Rather than trying to convince us that W. is "Reaganesque", he should have been examining what this man actually did while running the state of Texas.
To: Tall_Texan
You are right, but oh boy! Here come the heavy-breathing Bush-worshippers. Don't expect much in the way of retional discourse when they get here.
But what is to be done? Where shall we go when the Republicans are Democrats? Third party? Hell no! That's what the liberals want. We are so screwed.
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posted on
06/04/2002 1:25:02 AM PDT
by
Thorondir
To: Tall_Texan
I think people wanted so badly to wash the stench of Clinton, they were prepared to overlook the fact that G.W Bush was far from being a Reaganite conservative. And they consoled themselves with the thought that if Bush did get elected, he'd be in such debt to the conservative base that he wouldn't dare to cross it. Its true President Bush has turned to be far from who people hoped he would be. Then again in life there are rarely good choices. President Bush was the lesser of evils next to Clinton's Al Gore. All we can do is hope this fellow doesn't self destruct like his father did at the end of his first term in office.
To: Thorondir
Yup. Where can we really go? We're stuck between a rock and a hard place. Trust me as bad as Bush has gotten, we'll be assured the liberals are even worse.
To: JohnHuang2
Is it Gore W. Bush or Gore-ge W. Bush?
To: ChasingFletch
LOL
To: goldstategop
Even BEFORE the 2000 primaries, I told everyone the same things I am now. That Bush is a compromiser who gets things passed because he allows bills to be watered-down or altered to get as many Democrats as possible on board. That's one thing when you're talking about Texas Democrats (most of whom still have a lick of sense) and another thing when you talk about Washington Democrats (who think any sign of weakness is something to be exploited, not negotiated).
He's "The Great Compromiser". Anyone who wanted to look through his record as Governor could find it.
Yes, he a damn sight better than Clinton. He got a (ahem...watered down) tax cut, stood up on Kyoto, didn't totally cave on fetal stem cell research and has prosecuted the war in excellent fashion. But, ultimately, he's part of the Bush-Dole wing of the party that, while not as despicable as the Jeffords-Shays-Chafee-McCain wing of the party, leave a lot to be desired when it comes to conservative thought and conservative principles.
The *real* question is this:
Do we want to be the majority party with no principles or the principled party with no majority?
To: Thorondir
"We are so screwed."..
Yep. We've been screwed for about 35 years. As long as the schools keep churning out a great proportion of dumbed-down, socialist, moral-relativist, non-thinking, self indulgent kids from the public schools and the universities each year, we will be screwed. There are more lame thinking liberals produced and indoctrinated every day, and our weak politicians (and Gore W. Bush is one of them) feel they must pander to them. The days of the Republic are over. There are few good men alive in this country. The founders would be ill at the sight of this country's people and voters! When I look into the faces of our Congressmen it sickens me. Gore W. Bush is falling right in line! Laura should give him a good slap.
To: Tall_Texan
I'll take the latter.
To: JohnHuang2
While listening to Hannity discuss G.W.'s moderate stance lately, the caller raised an interesting theory. With the Senate and House control in the balance, could it be that Bush is getting the ire of Conservatives up so that they would get out in larger numbers in November to vote Conservative/Republican, thus insuring House.Senate control for the remainder of his first term? Once that happens, Bush may not seem so hog-tied to pander to liberals.
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posted on
06/04/2002 2:40:07 AM PDT
by
peteram
To: ChasingFletch
Laura is more moderate than George. I don't think the landscape will improve for conservatives any time soon. This is as good as its going to get for a long while.
To: peteram
I think he'd depress the base more than fire it up. Unless there are some unforeseen events, I think its a good bet the Rats will win control of both Houses of Congress this fall.
To: JohnHuang2
Well Hell
Now I gots to change my name yet again
LET ME SEE
NOTARAT
NODEM
USA1
To: goldstategop
True. But think for a moment. If enough conservatives really get ticked off at GW, they would do what they can to fill both houses with conservatives just to offset the moderation that appears to be coming from the White House. Also, to send a message that we ARE conservative and nothing in-between is good enough.
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posted on
06/04/2002 2:55:27 AM PDT
by
peteram
To: peteram
I like your theory. It assumes we will nominate true conservatives to federal offices instead of RINOs. Can we really send Karl Rove a message? I wonder about the quality and ideological commitment of the current crop of Republican federal candidates.
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