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To: JohnHuang2
 
Posted by VRWC_minion to Pokey78
On News/Activism ^ Jun 4 10:25 AM #112 of 116 ^

Sorry folks. Like it or not we lost the debate regarding whether global warming exists. The average person believes it to be so.

The problem with the existing terms of debate for both conservatives and liberals is we always missed the logical fallacy that the environuts were passing off. Namely that the Globe is warming THEREFORE we must sign Kyoto treaty.

Bush's approach on this put the debate against signing the treaty on much better footing that the old construct. It basically says OK so if global warming is caused by the minor amounts of man's actions what possible changes can man make (given that we have hundred years of carbon release) that would reverse the trend ? Its impossible to prove even with logical fallacies that anything will reverse the trend short of a complete ban on all releases.

But we must do something cry the environuts. Yes, Bush says we will study on how best to adapt to the coming changes. And oh yes, we conservatives will need to employ you scientists who have formerly worked for the environuts to come up with recommendations as to how best to adapt.

Bush has accepted that we lost the first argument but has retreated to a firmer place and at the same time has opened the opportunity to hire away the paid scientific shills.


19 posted on 06/04/2002 7:54:09 AM PDT by VRWC_minion
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To: VRWC_minion
"The problem with the existing terms of debate for both conservatives and liberals is we always missed the logical fallacy that the environuts were passing off. Namely that the Globe is warming THEREFORE we must sign Kyoto treaty."

Yes, this is a very politicized issue, and we can largely blame the enviro-wackos for that. Nevertheless, lots of conservatives have painted themselves into a corner by insisting that there is no global warming at all.

Global warming will not be all bad, but it will change our world. For example, it is possible that the fabled "Northwest Passage" thru the Artic Sea may be open for year-around traffic within 10-20 years. If this happens, it will definitely change world trade patterns - North Asia (Japan, Korea, China) will have a new shortcut to the markets in West Europe, and vice versa. This will probably be a boon for Asia. For the US, the implications are much less clear.

23 posted on 06/04/2002 8:50:58 AM PDT by buaya
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