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This is disturbing to me (note this is DOMESTIC spending he's referring to - i.e. not military).

"Incredibly, the domestic social welfare budget has expanded more in just two years ($96 billion) under George W. Bush than in Bill Clinton's first six years in office ($51 billion)."

1 posted on 05/23/2002 3:33:59 PM PDT by billsux
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To: billsux
This is what really pisses me off about Mr. Bush. I think he's a great manager and a decent CiC, but his core beliefs about the role of government and the constitution are in the toilet.

He's managed to make the support from many conservative types go from enthusiastic praise to utter disappointment. Not just on one or two issues but on many. His domestic policy on everything from immigration to welfare (corporate and domestic) sucks and is a disaster for this country.

Yeah I know Bushites, it's all part of a great plan to beat the Dems so I should be quite and realize he's smarter than all of us. Save the wear on your keyboard.

2 posted on 05/23/2002 3:45:28 PM PDT by AAABEST
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To: billsux
Are you forgetting the $190 BILLION farm welfare bill? How about 15 BILLION to the airline industry , 5 B of which is a grant? If I post more, I'll be accused of being a bushbasher, not that I care. Those of you who have been following his embracing of the dem's domestic programs know what I'm talking about.
3 posted on 05/23/2002 3:51:03 PM PDT by poet
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To: billsux
I see no way that pubbies can defend this guy. Apparantly not because we don't see much opposition to it in replies. I hope soon that the FReepers will become educated enough to start voting outside this "Two-Party Cartel". If they won't term limit themselves the sheeple should. If this is all government gives us for 2 1/2 Trillion annually the we sure don't need them.
4 posted on 05/23/2002 4:02:54 PM PDT by Digger
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To: billsux
I am offended by the use of "Drunken Sailors" in this article. As a Drunken Sailor, I can tell you that no one can buy more booze with less money, anywhere in the world, than a drunken sailor.
11 posted on 05/23/2002 4:46:06 PM PDT by aomagrat
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To: billsux
What will be even more disturbing to many Freepers is watching the voters return control of Congress to the Democrats. Voters know that if were going to have Big Government and Big Government Spending, it should be done by those who are experts at it - the Democrats - rather than a bunch of fiscal hypocrits.
16 posted on 05/23/2002 5:04:26 PM PDT by bimbo
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To: billsux
"Worse Than Drunken Sailors"

The Australian prostitutes would probably understand exactly what you are talking about.

21 posted on 05/23/2002 7:34:59 PM PDT by Don Myers
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To: Miss Marple; Southack; ArneFufkin; AlanChapman; Spiff; JoeHadenuf; LIBERTARIAN JOE; lawdog...
Despite the fact that the Republicans control the White House, the House of Representatives, and 30 governorships, the nation is now in the midst of the biggest government spending spree since LBJ. Incredibly, the domestic social welfare budget has expanded more in just two years ($96 billion) under George W. Bush than in Bill Clinton's first six years in office ($51 billion).

Every year since the Republicans first took control of the House in 1995, spending roadblocks have been further removed. Domestic spending actually fell by an impressive 3% in real terms in the 104th Congress (1995-96) when Republicans seized control of the House and Senate for the first time in 40 years. The next Congress raised spending by 4%, the next by 11%, and this one is on pace to raise the budget by 15%.

I've covered federal budget issues for nearly two decades. If the Farm Bill wasn't the most fiscally rancid legislation I have seen, it's certainly in the top three. Yet two out of three Republicans voted for it, and, worse yet, Mr. Bush not only signed it, he crowed that it would secure the "independence of the American farmer." Independence from what exactly? The free market?

John Boehner, the savvy Republican from Ohio who was a major part of the Republican Contract with America revolution in 1994, recently lamented that "we Republicans seem to have forgotten who we are and why we're here." He's right. Republicans are suffering from a politically lethal identity crisis. If the budget bulge that we're now witnessing were happening under a Democratic presidency, Republicans would be howling in indignant outrage. If the tidal wave of spending isn't soon reversed, the Republican Party may soon discover that it is both redundant and replaceable.

Vote Democrat, liberal Democrat. Start the revolution sooner rather than later.

25 posted on 05/23/2002 8:50:32 PM PDT by SteamshipTime
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To: billsux;Biker Scum;Glasser;bimbo;F16Fighter
I keep saying this in a low tone of voice and only one in a hundred people seem to hear it. Government doesn't care what you think and they don't have to care. They aren't spending your money, they're spending your children's money. As long as government can print all of the money it wants without coming directly to you to get it, it will continue to spend, spend, spend. Why not?

By the time the bill comes due in the form of inflation, your friendly politician will be retired on a 100% COLA pension with every benny under the sun and your kids will be stuck with the bill. I'm not making this up, I've already seen it happen. When Johnson was pumping money into Vietnam, did any of those politicians in '65-'70 come to my parents and say "Please dig into your pockets and pay the tax collector so we can conduct this war!" No, they just printed the money. Then, as if by magic, 10 years after the fact when it's time for me to buy a new car, inflation is 15% and when it's all over a car that used to cost $3000 is now inducing "sticker-shock" at $6500.

How many times is this going to happen before Americans wake up?

The golden rule of finance is "He who has the gold makes the rules." When the people had the gold (and silver - in their pockets and backing up their currency) the people made the rules. When the banking establishment and their willing stooge politicians have the gold (most of which is sitting in vaults below Chase in lower Manhattan) THEY make the rules. When politicians no longer have to ask the people for the money they spend, the people have lost control of their government.

Americans should just get used to being screwed because the politicians and their bankster friends are enjoying it. Until the American people force them to ask the people for the money to run government by requiring a specie based currency, they're going to continue enjoying "servicing" you.

29 posted on 05/23/2002 9:08:23 PM PDT by agitator
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To: billsux;Biker Scum;Glasser;bimbo;F16Fighter
I keep saying this in a low tone of voice and only one in a hundred people seem to hear it. Government doesn't care what you think and they don't have to care. They aren't spending your money, they're spending your children's money. As long as government can print all of the money it wants without coming directly to you to get it, it will continue to spend, spend, spend. Why not?

By the time the bill comes due in the form of inflation, your friendly politician will be retired on a 100% COLA pension with every benny under the sun and your kids will be stuck with the bill. I'm not making this up, I've already seen it happen. When Johnson was pumping money into Vietnam, did any of those politicians in '65-'70 come to my parents and say "Please dig into your pockets and pay the tax collector so we can conduct this war!" No, they just printed the money. Then, as if by magic, 10 years after the fact when it's time for me to buy a new car, inflation is 15% and when it's all over a car that used to cost $3000 is now inducing "sticker-shock" at $6500.

How many times is this going to happen before Americans wake up?

The golden rule of finance is "He who has the gold makes the rules." When the people had the gold (and silver - in their pockets and backing up their currency) the people made the rules. When the banking establishment and their willing stooge politicians have the gold (most of which is sitting in vaults below Chase in lower Manhattan) THEY make the rules. When politicians no longer have to ask the people for the money they spend, the people have lost control of their government.

Americans should just get used to being screwed because the politicians and their bankster friends are enjoying it. Until the American people force them to ask the people for the money to run government by requiring a specie based currency, they're going to continue enjoying "servicing" you.

30 posted on 05/23/2002 9:08:23 PM PDT by agitator
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To: monkeyshine
ping a ding ding.
38 posted on 05/24/2002 12:16:15 AM PDT by d4now
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To: billsux
They may all have that feeling that there is soon to be a nuclear event somewhere in the world (take your pick-Pakistan/India?), so spend, spend, spend. Or maybe it's just because Congress is so close (Rep.-Dem.) that they are bribing like crazy for votes. No matter, it is LOW, and we are sliding into Never-Ending Socialism. Hillary will put the icing on the cake in 2008! Bye Republic!
43 posted on 05/24/2002 2:24:40 AM PDT by ChasingFletch
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To: billsux
Worse than.

44 posted on 05/24/2002 2:35:48 AM PDT by ppaul
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To: billsux
BTTT
48 posted on 05/24/2002 7:36:30 AM PDT by Tauzero
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To: billsux
You are all so ignorant about Bush and his policies. He is just trying to spend our assets on us before Mexico takes over. Give the man a break.
51 posted on 05/24/2002 7:50:16 AM PDT by gunshy
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To: Askel5
BTTT
60 posted on 09/03/2002 3:26:35 AM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: OKCSubmariner
BTTT
61 posted on 09/03/2002 2:23:24 PM PDT by Uncle Bill
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To: billsux
Remember the movie Deep Impact? In the film, a comet has been detected traveling on a course that will cause it to impact the Earth in one year, destroying all surface life. The government decides to keep this knowledge secret to prevent mass panic and institutes a coverup. Enterprising TV newswoman Téa Leoni discovers that a massive government coverup is underway, but wrongly thinks the White House is hiding a high-level sex scandal; the White House for its part wrongly thinks that Leoni has found out about the comet. Soon thereafter she is detained by the Secret Service to prevent her from going with the story. Taken to the basement kitchen of the White House, Leoni is astonished to find herself in the presence of the President of the United States (played by Morgan Freeman). After sternly warning her to keep quiet about the affair in the interest of national security, the President sighs and says words to the effect of "We knew the media would catch on to us eventually due to the amount of money we've had to spend." A mystified Leoni discovers later that the money has been spent secretly building a giant nuclear-powered spacecraft that will be dispatched to attempt to deflect the comet.

I often wonder if the President and the others Up Top know something we don't. Not that a comet is coming, probably, but, gee, they really are spending an awful lot of money these days. I wonder what kind of "deep impact" they're expecting?

65 posted on 01/07/2003 4:07:11 PM PST by B-Chan (My prediction: the war on Iraq will begin at 0330 Baghdad time, January 31, 2003.)
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