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medved writes:
If we're gonna give California to Mexico we ought to simply do it and have done with it. There's no way that a Mexican state should be controlling 20% of the electoral votes necessary to elect an American president. The present situation amounts to allowing the lefties to have their cake and eat it at the same time.

A very good point. The time has come to think the unthinkable: paraphrasing the classic Ann Landers question, would the rest of America now be better off with or WITHOUT California?

Consider: if California were tomorrow no longer a part of the U.S.A., would our resulting nation be more or less conservative? Given the oversized "weight" of California's influence in national politics, how would the balance of power change if California were suddenly no longer a part of that game?

With the Mexican "reconquista" well in progress, it is all but inevitable -- given demographics and the cultural devolution brought about by the immigrant invasion -- that, eventually, California WILL become a default colony of Mexico. The same may be said for Arizona, New Mexico, and the south of Texas. But whatever is going to happen, is going to happen FIRST on the west coast.

Postponing the inevitable drags the rest of the country down in the meantime.

- John

[medved]

If what I read and hear from people leaving the place is basically right, then California is marginal for being economically and/or politically viable at this point and we need to either retake it or let Mexico have it, one or the other. Apparently you've got rich people and peasants in the place and little else, with 5% of the people paying half the taxes and 70 or 80% of the people not paying any taxes at all. That says if a very small number of people were to decide to leave, a permanent state of pandemonium would ensue. Likewise a significant blow to the stock portfolios of that same minority such as has occurred with thedot-com collapse is now causing a catastrophic budget deficit. Nothing like that could happen if, as in previous times, you had middle-class people working in factories which payed decent wages paying taxes in the place.

Likewise when you have a bill to restrict welfare benefits to illegal aliens passed by an overwhelming majority of the state and then shot down by a single Klintler judge ('we don't need no stinkin democracy...') and the reconquisters doing high-fives and talking about that being the last gasp of white America in the place, the only thing I'd know to do that didn't involve civil war or insurrection would be to get out a map of the US and start looking for other places to live.