[Sabertooth]

Lets be real.. True border control would require at least 500,000 to maybe 1,000,000 border agents. The cost of doing this would be crazy so what do we do? We hear control the borders, control the borders but nothing about the dollars it would take to really make it happen.

Listen again...

They Will
Deport Themsleves

1. Make the Illegals and their Co-conspirators, their employers, pay for the necessary expenditures through Total Asset Forfeiture. Seize businesses that knowingly hire Illegals, and auction them off. Proceeds go to enforcement against Illegals in the American Interior.

2. You want manpower? After 9/11, many Americans were looking for ways to volunteer... How about creating a Border Patrol Reserve. A lot of patriotic, over-40 types woul be only too happy to serve

3. We need to make up our minds to win the War against Illegals before the shooting starts in earnest. The same snivelers saying we can't win against Illegals once said we couldn't win against Terror.

We're America, and we can win any war we want to win. Get used to it.

[MissAmericanPie]

Bravo Sabertooth, all you have listed is pure common sense.

[rintense]

Guess what, Sabertooth. I completely agree with you.

[WRhine]

Those are great ideas Sabertooth though I have to wonder what it would take to get them implimented.

[4Freedom]

A big patriotic bump to Rep. Tom Tancredo and all of you closed border Freepers!

I hope that Tancredo is reading this thread and will initiate legislation that urges Congress to implement all of your suggestions.

Everything, but Fitz's idea of legalizing drugs. I say we put all of the recreational narcotics on the south side of the border and hope that the pro-dopers follow the illegal aliens out the door. ;^)

[Victoria Delsoul]

Your ideas sound pretty good, but you realize that it wouldn't be enough to stop illegal immigration. I said this before, so listen again… Even if we build a 20-foot wall across the border and post soldiers every few miles -- which would be prohibitively expensive - some illegals would still find ways to get through. You indicated that, "After 9/11, many Americans were looking for ways to volunteer... How about creating a Border Patrol Reserve. A lot of patriotic, over-40 types woul be only too happy to serve." You just don't create a Border Patrol Reserve without proper training, equipment and supervision.

Seize businesses that knowingly hire Illegals, and auction them off.

I think Fascist governments would agree with that.

As long as the standard of living in Mexico is that of a third world country, we will always see desperately poor people trying to cross the border seeking work or welfare. A family on welfare in the U.S. enjoys a higher standard of living than millions of working poor in Mexico. Wouldn't you do the same thing in their situation?

We don't have an immigration problem with Canada because Canadians enjoy a reasonably good living standard of living. Also, Canadians who can't or don't want to work won't come here for welfare benefits since they're higher in Canada.

Your proposed solution means more expenditures and bigger government and it will not completely eliminate the problem.

My solution:

Limit welfare to U.S. citizens or permanent residents. That would greatly reduce government welfare spending, which means smaller government while removing the incentive for aliens seeking welfare to enter the country illegally. We'd still get illegal aliens coming here to work, but those aliens add to our economy by providing a valuable commodity (labor) at a lower cost than American employees would accept. OTOH, the illegal aliens who contribute nothing to our economy would no longer have an incentive to drain our welfare rolls.

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[harpseal]

BTT for what would be an exellent idea. However, I doubt anyone in government has the B*lls to even consider it.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

[RnMomof7]

President Bush is the leading obstacle to controlling illegal immigration in this country and his "open door" border policy is a threat to national security, the Republican chairman of the Congressional Immigration Reform Caucus said yesterday.

This says it all

[Brownie74]

Thanks for the pings.

Of course you are right about punishing and seizing businesses that hire illegals Saber. The laws are already on the books - lets enforce them. What's going on at Tyson Chicken? I haven't heard anything about them lately.

Tancredo Fan:

President Bush is the leading obstacle to controlling illegal immigration in this country and his "open door" border policy is a threat to national security....

How can anyone possibly consider voting for this air head again? Not me!!

ADIOS JORGE!!

[Khepera]

Where do I sign up for border patrol reserve? Great Ideas!

[rambo316]

Good points made Sabertooth. Here, where I live, in Upstate, NY, just about all the restaurants have illegals working in them. Let's close them all down, the ones that are doing this and let law abiding citizens run them. If we did this, which I agree that we should, America would fall on its face. American kids today, have know Idea what it means to work hard and to work your way up the economic ladder.