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Have gun will travel [Do-Good Alert]
The Kansas City Star ^ | Friday, March 29, 2002 | LEWIS W. DIUGUID

Posted on 03/29/2002 4:40:16 AM PST by TroutStalker

My wife, Valerie, and I didn't find out until later that people we had invited into our home for the first time for dinner had carried a gun with them for "protection."

One of our daughters or their friends could have stumbled over the woman's purse where the gun lay concealed on the family-room floor. A curious child could have picked up the firearm and discharged it, hurting or killing someone.

The male guest said the woman he was with carried the gun for protection. The questions that lingered in my mind are from whom were our guests protecting themselves and what had made them so afraid?

No good answers came to mind then or when the Missouri House last week approved a bill that would allow residents to keep concealed firearms in their vehicles.

I don't expect the Republican-controlled state Senate to bravely vote down this measure and resist the cash-larded lobbyists for the National Rifle Association.

I'm counting on Missouri Gov. Bob Holden's sensible veto to keep people in this state safe. A veto would uphold the public's mandate of three years ago.

Despite a multimillion-dollar pro-gun campaign, voters defeated the ballot measure known as Proposition B. Prop B would have let people legally carry concealed weapons. Nothing indicates that the voters have changed their minds, though the legislature seems not to notice. More weapons on the road will make people more fearful and less safe.

Firearms advocates say the ballot proposal won a majority in 104 of the state's 114 counties. But the more heavily populated urban areas of St. Louis and Kansas City ensured Prop B's defeat.

Gun proponents have returned, this time to claim that the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and a public sense of "personal vulnerability" are behind the latest push for concealed weapons legislation in Missouri. I don't doubt it.

High above Missouri roads are passenger airliners, where many pilots say they also need firearms in their cockpits "for protection." Unlike guests entering homes or motorists, airplane passengers are thoroughly searched. So is their luggage.

But that's not enough for pilots. Flight attendants will settle for stun guns. The consequences of firearms discharging in pressurized cabins would be dire.

If the concealed-weapons bill passes in the General Assembly, vehicles being searched before they can be parked at Missouri's major airports will likely have guns that people forgot about.

What would folks rushing on the highway to airports do when the realization hits them? Grab the gun from the glove box and toss the weapon out the window to keep from missing a flight?

It sounds farfetched, but I used to think the same thing about the possibility of someone carrying a gun into my home. But these are meaner times. Too often people view others as the enemy instead of fellow human beings.

I also fear the globalization of weapons' use as problem-solving tools. Examples are the war in Afghanistan, the escalating violence between the Israelis and Palestinians and the threat of a new war in Iraq.

President Bush doesn't make people feel less vulnerable and more safe by labeling North Korea, Iran and Iraq an "axis of evil." Bush also said he'd use nuclear weapons against an enemy thought to be preparing to use weapons of mass destruction.

Attorney General John Ashcroft's actions also are perplexing. Ashcroft has refused to allow the FBI access to records to determine whether any of the hundreds of people held since the Sept. 11 tragedy have bought guns.

Ashcroft has been a gun-rights proponent since elected to offices in Missouri. The Second Amendment guaranteeing people the right to bear arms goes untouched under Ashcroft while other civil liberties are trounced in this climate of fear of terrorism.

Thank goodness Holden is our governor and not Ashcroft, who used to be. Ashcroft's shielding the Second Amendment while gutting the rest of the Bill of Rights makes about as much sense as guests carrying a gun into our home. It makes as much sense as Missouri lawmakers passing a concealed-weapons bill after voters said "no way."

Nonviolence makes good sense, too, locally and globally.


Lewis W. Diuguid is a member of The Star's Editorial Board. His column appears on Wednesdays and Fridays. To reach him, call (816) 234-4723 or send e-mail to Ldiuguid@kcstar.com.


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Lewis W. Do-good is a member of The Star's Editorial Board. He is also an anti-war and NAALCP activist. That tells you everything you need to know about the Kansas City Red Star.

And the fact that he hasn't taught his kids to stay out of other peoples purses, tells me that those who come to dinner at his house should keep an eye on their personal possessions.

1 posted on 03/29/2002 4:40:16 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: bang_list
Get out those letters to the editor!
2 posted on 03/29/2002 4:46:31 AM PST by coloradan
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To: bang_list
bang
3 posted on 03/29/2002 4:47:30 AM PST by CONSERVE
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To: TroutStalker
The Second Amendment guaranteeing people the right to bear arms goes untouched under Ashcroft while other civil liberties are trounced in this climate of fear of terrorism.
....Ashcroft's shielding the Second Amendment

Hey, I like this guy. Do you realize that is the first TACIT admission by someone on the left, that the Second Amendment means what we say it does.

4 posted on 03/29/2002 4:49:29 AM PST by hobbes1
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To: TroutStalker
He's also an idiot.
5 posted on 03/29/2002 4:49:54 AM PST by DB
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To: TroutStalker
I have read some version of "our dinner guest brought a gun and we were scared" many times. For giggles it might be fun to get him to identify the person to confirm whether there was in fact any such incident.
6 posted on 03/29/2002 4:53:11 AM PST by Nora
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To: TroutStalker

This guy needs to go lock himself in his Panic Room.
7 posted on 03/29/2002 4:55:13 AM PST by rabidralph
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To: DB
And an ignorant WUSS.
8 posted on 03/29/2002 4:55:49 AM PST by Tijeras_Slim
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To: TroutStalker
This type of story from the Kansas City RED Star does not surprise me.
9 posted on 03/29/2002 5:15:27 AM PST by Lanman
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To: TroutStalker
Wow - that has to be a record for the number of leftist lies packed into a single editorial. Since no one has mentioned it yet, the consequences of a .357 revolver discharge in an airtplane cabin are only dire for the person who gets hit with the bullet. You could put 10 .357 holes in the fuselage and not depressurize the cabin.
10 posted on 03/29/2002 5:17:38 AM PST by freedomcrusader
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To: Nora
I have read some version of "our dinner guest brought a gun and we were scared" many times.

I think the author is a fearful little toad, but a couple thoughts come to mind-

Other people's kids can be nosy little beggers- Senior Management and I visited some friends for dinner- she took her .380 out of her purse, and left it with the Kimber in my truck. As we left, she noticed that one of the kids had stuffed some toys in her purse, which had been left on a closet shelf. I absolutely would not have put it past the little weasel to pick up, play with, and discharge that little DA .380.

Also, if you're going to carry concealed, don't tell people, particularly if you suspect they are fearful of guns, and you are in their house. Some folks get a charge out of "letting it slip" that they carry, or are carrying. Bad Idea.

Finally,if you're visiting someone's house..hey, it's their house- respect their wishes, spoken or implicit.

11 posted on 03/29/2002 5:22:51 AM PST by fourdeuce82d
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Lewis DooGood and his wife need to learn more about people before they ask them into their homes to recruit them into their spouse-swapping activities...
12 posted on 03/29/2002 5:24:04 AM PST by Crowcreek
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To: TroutStalker
what had made them so afraid?

Too funny!

This whole tripe-fest is nothing but a litany of fears this guy harbors because his fellow citizens carry guns.

And why do I think that not a single solitary person who believes in the right to arm themselves would ever be a dinner guest in his home?

13 posted on 03/29/2002 5:28:49 AM PST by Madame Dufarge
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Why don't he just hang a "No Guns" sign on his front door? We don't go into places where we're not welcome.
14 posted on 03/29/2002 5:31:51 AM PST by packrat01
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To: TroutStalker
Geez -- What'sa this guy's beef? You don't want people carrying concealed in your house, don't invite them. Or tell them to leave. That is a homeowner's right.

It is the same right I exercise every day by refusing to invite anti-gun twits (like the author of this piece) to dine at my place.

(Besides, would you really want to dine at this twit's house? I mean would you dine at any house where you have to fear that the owners' kids are going to rifle your purse or briefcase?)

15 posted on 03/29/2002 5:35:48 AM PST by No Truce With Kings
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To: Madame Dufarge
This guy is so far out of it that he wrote a column the other day about his purchase of a new mini-van. He has two old VW vans from the sixties and seventies that he drives, and which he frequently mentions in many of his columns.
16 posted on 03/29/2002 5:36:58 AM PST by TroutStalker
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To: TroutStalker
I usually don't like to curse on this forum, but this guy has driven me to it...

WHAT A P*SSY!!!!!
17 posted on 03/29/2002 5:39:27 AM PST by GodBlessRonaldReagan
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To: TroutStalker
I don't expect the Republican-controlled state Senate to bravely vote down this measure and resist the cash-larded lobbyists for the National Rifle Association.

Versus the cash-larded lobbyists from the various anti gun groups.....Violence Policy Center....The Brady Campaign,etc,etc.

18 posted on 03/29/2002 5:41:57 AM PST by Pistolshot
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To: TroutStalker
So these folks should forgo their right to protect themselves, simply because he is to ignorant and self righteous to teach his kids handgun safety. Typical liberal Barbara Streisand.
19 posted on 03/29/2002 5:45:41 AM PST by P8riot
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To: TroutStalker
So, he (Lewis & wife) didn't find out til later this friend had a gun in her purse? So who gave him that information? An un-named source? RIGHT! These freeking lying socialist make me sick.

How are you TroutStalker?

aka/fleebag

20 posted on 03/29/2002 5:50:45 AM PST by BARLF
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