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Hasta la vista baby-See you later baby(immigration)
National Review | 3/24/02 | John O`Sullivan

Posted on 03/24/2002 5:09:11 PM PST by americanpatriotUSA

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To: WRhine
Okay, fine, you're an independently thinking turncoat.

Time and again you have praised yourself for supporting Bush, but now, after just over a year in office and with America embroiled in serious military conflict, you've chosen to become a full fledged "Bush-Basher". May be you should start calling yourself, "WRhine-Jeffords". IMO, such public displays of irrational behavior, proves, beyond a shadow of a doubt, that at best, your support for Bush was weak from the start. There is ample evidence on this thread to support my contentions.

I'm not surprised when disagreements take place and heated exchanges occur between the party faithful, over certain policy decisions. Those are signs of a healthy political party and in some cases, can be beneficial to Bush and the GOP. But you can dissent and still remain loyal. In your case, you've already made up your mind though. But not satisfied with having dropped your support for Presidsent Bush, you've also decided to attack his supporters, for staying loyal to the President and not agreeing with you. That's real sad!

62 posted on 03/25/2002 6:47:18 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: dougherty
Hit and run rhetoric.

Ad hominem attacks.

The motis operandi of a first class loser.

You're nothing but a dirty little snot nose punk. Now, go to your room.

63 posted on 03/25/2002 6:52:27 AM PST by Reagan Man
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To: dougherty
They don't want to understand, they want to bury their head in the sand and pretend everything is alright.

Some people who do understand, who know everything is not alright, choose to spend their time and energy, not in a chronic spewfest of aggrieved jibba jabba, but acting in real world ways that solves challenges in life. Some of you have invested a great deal of time and energy here obsessing over the imminent peril we face, yet you haven't found the strength to overcome your laments of betrayal, injury and immutable danger to pull it together and ponder practical solutions. The usual crew has found this comfortable groove cooing smug affirmations of uncommon wisdom and insights, but you don't accomplish anything. We all "get it", believe me - it's just that most of us got it about the 10th post of the first Amnesty thread - roughly three weeks and 64 immigration threads ago. The problem definition process is long since complete, some have moved forward to addressing practical options to repair the damage and remove the sources of the mess. It's a basic evolution of discourse, an onward and upward deal. It beats incessant mewling.

Immigration is an American legacy and a testament to its ongoing strength, liberty and prosperity. It's a good thing, and it should be promoted and cherished as a universal concept. Immigrants have always come here to escape poverty and oppression. They've come here to gain economic benefit and security. They've always circumvented the red tape and inertia of Federal naturalization bureaucracies. Smuggling illegals over our borders, and securing their employment has always been a vital racket ... ah service ... in immigrant communities. "When you get to Coney, go see this guy and he'll set you up." The Mexican influx is no different, it's indigent people seeking a more secure future for their families. Historically, however, the forces of labor markets moderated the rate of influx and determined the places that new immigrants settled. No jobs, no family or community sponsor, no immigrants. They earned their keep through their labor, and their efforts were a boon to the greater community, regardless of their citizen status. It worked, the newcomers were productive from the start, and they provided the engine that bolstered the growth of new cities, new industries and our national wealth. The current Mexican influx is different, it is not beneficial only because it has been streategically corrupted by socialist politicians and bureaucrats. Not George W. Bush. These socialists are providing govenment benefits - welfare entitlements and services - to support immigrant newcomers. There are no market barriers to limit access to the productive and self-reliant. They've rendered fitness for employment and the availability of suitable jobs irrelevant to the ability of an immigrant to survive. Illegals are choking Southern California, because they have no barriers to their initial entry, and they are impervious to the usual labor market influences that ensured that immigrants would be productive influences to the greater community. These idiots turned immigration from a societal boon to a burden.

That's the source of all this fallout, it's the social outcome of government pimps enticing a huge trove of vulnerable newcomers into their entitlement voting bloc. They want helpless, dependent and unassimilated immigrants here legally or otherwise - it solidifies their role as the protectors and providers for those who will vote them into increased power. Political power equals money for the poverty industry. And we have the ability and responsibility as American individuals to nose around our local welfare offices and work to identify corrupt policies, expose them to the light of day, and champion a political repeal of the offending practise.

Get on the phone, talk to your County Executive, talk to the Superintendent of your district ... find out if YOUR local government is harboring and funding foreign interlopers. The provision of these entitlements has corrupted the immigration process, it has a political solution.

It's time to put up or shut up. Enough of the whining and misdirected finger pointing. Forget about the immigrants themselves, forget about some White House proposal that has never been implemented, and start doing your duty as a citizen. The continued exploitation of this real and perilous immigration chaos - which is a result of 10 years of INS incompetence and liberal schemeing - by some here as a pretext to spit bile at George W. Bush is cloddish and boring. If you don't like Bush - congratulations and we're way hip to that. Now that we've moved that out of the way ... what are YOU proposing that we do, today as citizens, about the 8 million illegal immigrants present and unaccounted for, and the disgracefully incompetent system that led them here?

64 posted on 03/25/2002 10:02:42 AM PST by ArneFufkin
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