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Liberal immigration adds to U.S. woes
Boston Herald ^ | 2/18/02 | Don Feder

Posted on 03/18/2002 5:35:27 AM PST by Tumbleweed_Connection

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To: Big Meanie
Who shot Quisling? The Norwegians? For treason? That has to be the last time in recorded history that any Scandanavian country actually blamed a criminal for his actions and punished him severely. I would have thought that a Norwegian court would have given him community service and a few months of therapy.
41 posted on 03/18/2002 9:13:51 AM PST by quebecois
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Saying that immigration adds to US woes misses a very important point: that which is "woeful" depends on the perspective of the individual in question.

The CEOs (like Tyson of Tyson Chicken fame) are importing a vast army of third world peasants who will work for peanuts....thereby increasing their profit margins. Thus, immigration doesn't add to his "woes".

The liberals who run DC are getting a vast new army of dependent welfare cases. Better yet, the new folks are not white, so they can be whipped up into a resentful hatred of evil republicans in the suburbs. No "woes" there.

Now...for Joe sixpack, who has to live with rising crime, higher taxes, overcrowded schools, etc.....those are woes. But, alas, this country is not run for the sake of Joe sixpack....so he might as well "put some ice on it".

42 posted on 03/18/2002 9:17:58 AM PST by quebecois
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To: Howlin
Well, so far I have not been wrong about anything, regarding the immigration issue. Like you I'm in the wait and see mode right now.

Bush can't hand anything to Fox right now, because the Senate has not passed anything.

The fact does remain, that Bush does want to give Fox 245(i) and an Amnesty program for the rest. We hear allot more inside the walls of INS than you guys hear from the press.

Bush's public stance is no, but it is what he wants.

If the Senate votes down 245(i), Bush still wins. If it passes he gets the praise for it, but if it fails, he can blame the Dems. It's win - win for Bush.

44 posted on 03/18/2002 9:24:59 AM PST by Marine Inspector
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Immigrants and Terrorists

The Wall Street Journal 3/18/02

The delayed mailings of visa approvals for two September 11 terrorists has the Immigration and Naturalization Service in dutch with everyone from President Bush on down. We won't waste your time piling on. The need for serious reform at the INS is obvious, but so is the need for lawmakers to distinguish between immigrants who bus tables and those who hijack airplanes.

Last week the House debated a sensible bill on immigrant residency that recognizes such a distinction. The measure ultimately passed in a 275 to 137 vote, despite strong objections from some in the GOP. It would allow mostly Mexican aliens who have entered the U.S. legally to remain here while they seek residency. An earlier version easily passed the House in a preliminary 336-43 vote last May. Last week's debate and lower margin are signs that a large clutch of Republicans are now bent on exploiting the terror attacks to advanc their anti-immigrant agenda.

Leading this brigade is Colorado's Tom Tancredo, who warned his colleagues that "people will be given amnesty under this plan who may in fact even be terrorists." Congressman Dana Rohrabacher of California agrees. Last week he told House Members that to "extend amnesty to these illegal aliens is unworthy of this body." To stop the next Mohammed Atta, this thinking goes, it is necessary to upend the lives of Mexican nannies in San Diego. Never mind that Atta and the other hijackers had all entered the U.S. legally.

The House bill, which Mr. Bush backs, would temporarily reauthorize a program that drew some 400,000 applicants before it expired on April 30. The program targets noncitizens who entered the U.S. on a valid visa that has now expired or is about to. These individuals are eligible for a permanent resident visa, but under existing law they must return to their country of origin to reapply, a process that could keep them out of the U.S. for up to 10 years. Extending the program allows these immigrants to remain in the U.S. while they reapply.

It's the humane course to take. Seventy percent of those eligible are children or spouses of American citizens or permanent residents. It also makes economic sense. Many of these workers are now settled in companies and communities where they make a large contribution.

There's always a chance that terrorist cells lie dormant among these folks, but it's hardly likely. There's also a chance that every person who enters the U.S. legally is a security risk, which is why the better way to enhance border security is to improve intelligence and information sharing among the INS, CIA and FBI.

Republican immigration opponents surely know this, but scapegoating our hard-working neighbors to the south seems to matter most to them. This is politically short-sighted, considering large immigrant voting populations. But it's also not likely to help the war effort. Sending Mexicans away now with the intention of readmitting them later needlessly burdens already overworked U.S. consular officials whose time would be better spent tracking down more legitimate threats.

The Senate will now consider the President's residency proposals, and Republicans must decide whether Mr. Bush or Mr. Tancredo is the voice of the party on immigration. The realities of migration in a global economy should make the choice obvious. Until Mexican wages reach a point where people don't see more opportunity here, nothing short of a Berlin Wall along the Rio Grande will break the human tide. For now, Mexico's loss is our gain

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45 posted on 03/18/2002 9:26:07 AM PST by Dane
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To: Sabertooth
Holy Moley, A Democrat standing up for the Constitution? Whoa, I think I saw a pig fly by my window!

Well, I asked God to give me hope, and it's things like this that show me a glimmer.

46 posted on 03/18/2002 9:33:57 AM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: Big Meanie
Nobody at the WSJ wants to take credit for writing this article?

It's an editorial. This article coneys the thoughts of the WSJ editorial board.

The editorial board has a meeting, discuss their position, and someone from the editorial board writes it and before publication it must go through the editorial board for approval.

The editorial is the position of a newspaper, in this case the WSJ.

48 posted on 03/18/2002 10:05:49 AM PST by Dane
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To: Dane
This is exactly the kind of spin we have come to expect from the open borders crowd at the WSJ. On any matter of immigration their knee-jerk response is more immigration is better. And it doesn't matter to them if immigration is legal or not. In fact, just one week prior to 9/11 Robert Bartley (former Review & Outlook editor) in his now infamous op ed piece let the cat out of the bag when he advocated a "Borderless" America. Needless to say he didn't expand on those remarks in the ensuing months.

With the WSJ it's all a one-sided debate. Paul Gigot and Co. rarely discuss the staggering societal costs that taxpayers must pay to provide the long list of freebie welfare benefits that many immigrants (mostly illegal) receive. Nor do they, for some strange reason, like to talk about how many Hispanics are voting illegally in our elections; or that their voting block is bolstering the Democratic Party and tilting the balance in a number of states that used to be solidly republican.

As the media Vanguard of unlimited immigration, the WSJ has ZERO credibility on immigration.

49 posted on 03/18/2002 10:30:16 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Dane
For now, Mexico's loss is our gain

Who is the 'our' in our gain? The evil elite new world order multinational corporate traitors who control the media and both political parties.

50 posted on 03/18/2002 10:42:18 AM PST by majordivit
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To: Brownie74
What can one expect from anti-American rags that publish manure like this?

"Indeed, during the immigration debate of 1984 we suggested an ultimate goal to guide passing policies--a constitutional amendment: 'There shall be open borders.'" --Wall Street Journal -- Robert Bartley, Editor -- July 2, 2001

51 posted on 03/18/2002 10:44:21 AM PST by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
I'll call your Robert Bartley and raise you a Barbara Jordan.

``Immigration is not a right guaranteed by the U.S. Constitution to everyone and anyone in the world who wishes to come to the United States. It is a privilege granted by the people of the United States to those whom we choose to admit.'' It's time for the American people to reassert their democratic right to control their fate. Immigration policy is national destiny.

A former Democratic congresswoman, the late Barbara Jordan of Texas (who chaired a presidential immigration commission in the 1990s), put the matter in the proper context.

52 posted on 03/18/2002 11:00:23 AM PST by Brownie74
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
But a funny thing happened on the way to the latest amnesty. A majority of the president's party balked at the latest move toward balkanization. Republicans voted against the green-card giveaway by 123-92. It passed only with overwhelming Democratic support.

Well you have to give the Democrats credit; at least they KNOW what they are doing. They KNOW that unchecked illegal immigration encouraged on by Amnesties benefits the Democratic Party. A good percentage of Republicans however seem more than willing to help the democrats out in the destruction of their party. This is another case where we see that the "Stupid Party" name for Republicans is well deserved.

53 posted on 03/18/2002 11:39:32 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Brownie74
Turns out as far as this issue, Barbara Jordan was the better politician from Texas than El Presidente Jorge Bush.
54 posted on 03/18/2002 1:23:31 PM PST by jragan2001
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To: F16Fighter
Are you sure you don't have the Texas Senate race confused with the Texas Demo gubernatorial primary?

F16Fighter blew this out his afterburner:

Already, as has been documented in this essay, two United States Democratic Senate candidates have debated in Spanish
55 posted on 03/18/2002 1:37:19 PM PST by Tickle Me Pank
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To: F16Fighter
I see now - the Herald had the debate in Spanish wrong.....
56 posted on 03/18/2002 1:40:23 PM PST by Tickle Me Pank
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To: Tickle Me Pank
"F16Fighter blew this out of his afterburner..."

Hey -- after eating the remnants of St. Pat's "Day 2" corned beef and cabbage, who am I to fight Mother Nature? ;-)

As to referencing the Herald, there was indeed A debate between two spanish-speaking Democratic, um, er, candidates" of something or another....

57 posted on 03/18/2002 2:56:05 PM PST by F16Fighter
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To: F16Fighter
LOL, fighter!

Yes, there was a debate in Spanish between Tony Sanchez & and Dan Morales, Demo combatants for the Texas Governorship. Sanchez won the primary.
58 posted on 03/18/2002 3:00:38 PM PST by Tickle Me Pank
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To: Travis McGee
Word to the wise: be careful with her, or you will encounter sudden drastic problems with anonymous "admin moderators".How true!!!!!!
59 posted on 03/18/2002 4:33:18 PM PST by Patrick
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To: Patrick
They think we don't know!
60 posted on 03/18/2002 7:57:39 PM PST by Travis McGee
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