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To: Jim Robinson
Probably not. But what will? The Republican Party is becoming indistinguishable from the Democratic Party. Do we keep just voting for the "R's" each time because that's what we've always done, and what our parents have always done? At what point do we stop supporting these people?
11 posted on 03/13/2002 2:53:28 PM PST by Michael2001
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To: Michael2001
Yeah, sure, they're exactly the same. Who needs Defense? Or lower taxes. And I think we don't have enough species on the endangered list. I want more restrictions on my property! I don't need guns. Reparations! Repartions! < /sarcasm >

Those DU'ers looove people like you. You know, I kinda wish there were more true believers on the left, you know, ones that actually abandoned the Clintons on welfare reform. But I guess Dems play to win. I wouldn't be surprised if there was a mole or two on this forum who are inciting things against Bush by encouraging folks to "teach Bush a lesson." Oh, it's not a good idea to misrepresent the truth to attempt to convince people to help elect a Dem on this forum. Smells like something's rotten on FR.

46 posted on 03/13/2002 3:08:00 PM PST by stands2reason
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To: Michael2001
Oh please. This amnesty thing is almost as bad as the Libertarian absolutism you get here on occation.

What, do we want to start a refugee crisis in Mexico?

Do we want to take a chunk out of our economy?

Do we want to piss off Mexican-americans, or do we want to wedge them in the next election?

Yes, it would be more satisfying to have tight border controls before we have amnesty and/or a guest worker program, but that ain't how real world politics works.

If Bush can get tighter border controls and some voter fraud control, it will be worth amnesty to every single wetback in the U.S. If he can wedge the Mexican-Americans, we win in the next election.

Bush and his advisors are pros. They play to win. I am going to trust Dubya on this one.

53 posted on 03/13/2002 3:10:17 PM PST by eno_
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To: Michael2001
"Do we keep just voting for the "R's" each time .."

Yes. Politics is the art of the possible. The name of the game is to stay in power by winning elections. The ones Horowitz calls, "Gold Star" Republicans infuriate me --- they're too naive for words.

Read on (the naive should pay special attention):

StopDemocrats.com has learned from a source inside Spence Publishing Company that David Horowitz, the former Vietnam-era Liberal activist turned popular Conservative author and commentator, will publish an explosive new book title "HOW TO BEAT THE DEMOCRATS And Other Subversive Ideas" in June 2002. The book comes just in time as the mid-term November elections heat up and the Democrats desperately try to bring down a president with a six-month long approval rating above 80% and a united Republican Party with the upper-hand on most issues.

"HOW TO BEAT THE DEMOCRATS And Other Subversive Ideas" is "an indispensable manual for wartime politics" that extends the message of "The Art of Political War" that according to Horowitz helped put George W. Bush in the White House. Horowitz writes that the Democrats have demoralized our military, eviscerated the CIA, and let America become a playground for terrorists and that this book will make sure that it won't be politics as usual in 2002.

The source reveals "For Democrats, politics is permanent war. Every conflict is a contest for power, every battle is about burying their enemies-Republicans. With racial shakedown artists and intolerant "progressives" rearing their heads at home-and terrorists striking at us from abroad-Horowitz's uncompromising and principled commitment to freedom is more needed than ever."

In this new book, the former Liberal shows why the Democrats can't be trusted with the nation's security because "the party has subordinated sound defense policy to a radical ideology untamed even by September 11". The source reveals "Horowitz's unmatched strategic powers are on full display in his enumeration of the principles for a winning political campaign, which he then applies to the specific issues that will shape the 2002 election."

David Horowitz concludes with an exposé of the anti-American escapades of Noam Chomsky and his comrades of the unrepentant left. The Main parts of the book include:

The four fundamental principles of politics
Six lessons from the near-heist of the 2000 election
Democratic plans for revenge in 2002
Horowitz's bold strategy for GOP victory
How the left still tries to undermine American defense

Here is an exclusive excerpt from David Horowitz's "HOW TO BEAT THE DEMOCRATS And Other Subversive Ideas" (224 pages with index and notes), ISBN 1-890626-41-4, $27.95, by Spence Publishing Company, www.spencepublishing.com.

"Politics is about winning. It seems like an obvious fact, but Republicans sometimes forget it. Many seem to think that politics is only about being right: if you espouse good principles and good policies, you've performed your political task. In one sense, of course, politics is about such things. Why engage in political battles if you don't think you are wiser or more principled than your opponent? But politics is also a war in which almost anything goes. Consequently good principles and good policies are defeated as often as they succeed. Those who think they can win elections on superior principles and better policies are "Gold Star" Republicans. Gold Star Republicans believe that if they show voters they are decent and prudent human beings they will be rewarded. But that's not the way the political war works. Defending our Republic and the principles for which it stands is a task that Republicans will have to face. To do this successfully, Republicans will first have to change their approach to the battle itself. They can no longer afford to regard politics as a business. Instead, they will have to embrace it as a cause."

DAVID HOROWITZ is the author of Hating Whitey and Other Progressive Causes, The Art of Political War and Other Radical Pursuits, Uncivil Wars: The Controversy over Reparations for Slavery, among other books. One of America's most sought-after political strategists and commentators, Horowitz is the editor of FrontPageMag.com and a columnist for the on-line magazine Salon.com. He lives in Los Angeles.

474 posted on 03/13/2002 7:21:08 PM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: Michael2001
Probably not. But what will? The Republican Party is becoming indistinguishable from the Democratic Party.

That is an idiot statement. Check here before you make another. http://www.conservative.org/ratings2001.htm

558 posted on 03/13/2002 8:27:28 PM PST by wattsmag2
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To: Michael2001; Jim Robinson
Probably not. But what will? The Republican Party is becoming indistinguishable from the Democratic Party. Do we keep just voting for the "R's" each time because that's what we've always done, and what our parents have always done? At what point do we stop supporting these people?

Um .....

When we wish to give the organized-criminal enterprizes -- of which William Jefferson Blythe Clinton was but the inevitable product -- FRee reign to take US; Our Beloved FRaternal Republic -- and Western Civilization -- into the toilet?

Until then, perhaps?

759 posted on 03/14/2002 8:23:17 AM PST by Brian Allen
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