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Pilot believed alive, held in Iraq
Washington Times ^ | 3/11/02 | Bill Gertz

Posted on 03/10/2002 10:10:30 PM PST by kattracks

Edited on 07/12/2004 3:37:59 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

U.S. intelligence agencies have obtained new information indicating Iraq is holding captive a U.S. Navy pilot shot down during the Persian Gulf war, The Washington Times has learned.

British intelligence provided the CIA and Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA) with the new information several months ago, and intelligence officials said it could assist in the ongoing investigation into the fate of Navy Lt. Cmdr. Michael Scott Speicher.


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TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: espionagelist; geopolitics
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To: kattracks
bump for later.
42 posted on 03/11/2002 3:45:35 AM PST by snippy_about_it
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
There are 19 other MIA's from the Gulf War.

I didn't realize that. I knew about Speicher because I'd read stories about him posted here a few times (and probably other places on the net) over the last couple of years and I knew they'd found evidence suggesting he was alive.

43 posted on 03/11/2002 3:47:25 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: kattracks
This story was issued today, the very day Cheney goes begins his tour to whip up allied support for attacking Iraq. It of course has the desired impact as Americans won't tolerate this treatment from Iraq. ... The only question I have is why wasn't something done about this in the last 10 years? This is after all the third presidential administration to be know of his captivity?
44 posted on 03/11/2002 4:03:33 AM PST by Ranger
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To: kattracks
  1. Attack Iraq very soon.
  2. Utterly destroy any Iraqi resistance.

45 posted on 03/11/2002 4:29:51 AM PST by a_witness
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To: Jonathon Spectre
Get a load of the idiocy going on in this sister thread.

There are a frightening number of people for whom "Pedicaris alive, or el Raszouli dead" translates to unspeakable horror, while "we shall see peace in our time" epitomizes all that's wholesome and admirable.

It's enough to gag a maggot.

46 posted on 03/11/2002 4:38:11 AM PST by Don Joe
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To: Poohbah; JohnHuang2
Get Delta Force ready. Time to bring our pilot home.
47 posted on 03/11/2002 4:45:11 AM PST by hchutch
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To: kattracks

Incoming.....


48 posted on 03/11/2002 4:45:56 AM PST by krogers58
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To: kattracks
That alone is enough reason to kill Hussein and reduce his empire of evil into rubble.
49 posted on 03/11/2002 4:47:01 AM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: blam
blam...

This man is not the first nor will he be the last militay person that is written off with the stroke of a pen. To the military/government mindset, it tends to keep the books clear and the government unencumbered. Once the pen writes the man off, it is nearly impossible to move the military to right a wrong.

Since WW2 our history is replete with men whose lives were answered for with the action of a pen.

50 posted on 03/11/2002 4:50:56 AM PST by cynicom
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To: kattracks
One U.S. official said the new agent offered to identify the exact location in Baghdad where the American is being held[...]

which is useless once this was published.

51 posted on 03/11/2002 5:04:29 AM PST by lepton
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To: Timesink
There's our excuse, as if their refusal to allow weapons inspectors wasn't already enough. Bye bye Saddam!

You got that right. "Um excuse me Saddam we are looking for our pilot and we believe you are holding him.....right here".

LET'S ROLL!

52 posted on 03/11/2002 5:23:31 AM PST by Mixer
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To: kattracks

Sweet Mary Mother of God...


53 posted on 03/11/2002 6:22:35 AM PST by vannrox
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To: kattracks
Why would they keep him this long (if they ever had him)? I would expect that if they did take him alive, that by now they would have either tried to use him publicly as a hostage and/or pump him for info. I don't see why they would devote resources to imprisoning him secretly for this long, by this time there wouldn't be anything of use he could tell them.

I think that they should consider the possibility that this is a lie intended to draw our army to a specific place for an ambush and the chance to take captives for real. Of course it could also be a ruse by the government to build support for an attack on them.

Has anyone found a cure for paranoia yet? (One that WANS'T discovered at a government lab of course :) )

54 posted on 03/11/2002 6:26:59 AM PST by Grig
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To: blam
Can you imagine the misery this poor human soul must be going through. How many times has he asked, where are my countrymen? My heart breaks for him.

Mine too...

55 posted on 03/11/2002 6:29:21 AM PST by Reborn
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To: 68-69TonkinGulfYatchClub
Congress and the President rewarded Viet Nam with free trade status WITHOUT a full accounting of those Nixon left behind.

What do you mean those "Nixon left behind"? Nixon wasn't even President when the Vietnam War ended when the last troops left in 1975.
56 posted on 03/11/2002 6:33:22 AM PST by LetsRok
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To: kattracks
If this is true and the Clinton administration did nothing, there is a definite sickness in our government that must be eliminated. If this is true, Clinton for 8 years, all the while getting his Jollies with Monica, and other interns, raping other women, having people killed like Vince Foster, commiting perjury and TREASON, let this pilot rot in an Iraqi Jail.

Our leaders must liberate this man, NOW. If they turn him over, fine, that's the beginning. However, Will this be brought to the attention of the media? Will the media tell the true story that for 11 years this man has been rotting in an Iraqi Jail, when the Clinton Administration knew about it, and did absolutely nothing? No. Nothing will come of this. We'll just be lucky to get our man back. Bill Clinton will NEVER be held accountable for ANYTHING he did during the 8 years, and most certainly won't be taken to task for the things he DIDN'T do while he was enjoying cigars and women in the white house.

I believe we should Start Nuking the entire middle east. All of those countries who have pledged Death To America, simply wipe them all out. Every single person in that region. No more wars, no more threats or rumors of war will come from that region. It will be washed clean by the blood of subhuman people, and their maniacal dictators.

57 posted on 03/11/2002 6:50:42 AM PST by MadRobotArtist
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To: Ranger
This is after all the third presidential administration to be know of his captivity?

According to post #33, this is the *second* administration to know. It appears that the current administration is inclined to do something about it, unlike the scofflaw who got to sit in the big office for the preceding two terms. Countdown now starting in anticipation of Clinton's Denial-Fest.

58 posted on 03/11/2002 7:27:12 AM PST by Charles Martel
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To: kattracks
Quick! Someone notify the Red Double-Cross so they can go over there and make sure he's getting three squares, a Bible, medical care, etc.
59 posted on 03/11/2002 8:02:24 AM PST by Attillathehon
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To: cynicom
This man is not the first nor will he be the last militay person that is written off with the stroke of a pen.

It seems the man's fate, if he were still alive, has been sealed by the publication of this intelligence. Saddam will certainly remove any trace of the man after this has been reported.

A more cynical view is that the story was leaked for building domestic support for a war on Iraq. Either way his fate is sealed.

60 posted on 03/11/2002 8:08:26 AM PST by Henk
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