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Team picks white man mascot to make point
Greeley Tribune ^ | 10 Mar 02 | Julio Ochoa

Posted on 03/10/2002 7:27:34 AM PST by real saxophonist

Team picks white man mascot to make point

 Story By Julio Ochoa

An intramural basketball team at the University of Northern Colorado called "The Fighting Whities" is turning the tables on the Eaton mascot issue.

Led by Solomon Little Owl, director of Native American Student Services at UNC, the team chose a white man as its mascot to raise awareness and understanding of stereotypes that some cultures endure.

"The message is, let's do something that will let people see the other side of what it's like to be a mascot," Little Owl said. "I am really offended by this mascot issue, and I hope the people that support the Eaton mascot will get offended by this."

The players, made up of a mixture of American Indian, Hispanic and caucasian students, wear white jerseys with the picture of a white man in a suit on the front and the slogan "Every thang's gonna be all white!" printed beneath.

"It's not meant to be vicious, it is meant to be humorous," said Ray White, a Mohawk American Indian on the team. "It puts people in our shoes, and then we can say, 'Now you know how it is, and now you can make a judgement.' "

Judging right or wrong is hard when you don't understand how it feels to be stereotyped, White said.

"We are looking for understanding," he said. "We want change, but you can't force change."

American Indians could go through the general assembly or town meetings to try to change mascots, but the same message might not get through, White said.

"We all live in the same community and want the same things, so it is good to be standing in each other's shoes for a while," he said.

Charles Cuny, an Ogalala Lakota and member of the team, said he went to an American Indian Catholic high school with a mascot called the Red Cloud Crusaders, after a famous chief of the Lakota Indians.

The problem with Eaton's mascot is a matter of respect, he said.

"There are certain words that are accepted and certain words that are unacceptable," Cuny said. "Really a mascot is something that you look up to, and on one hand that is nice, but maybe we could go about it another way."

Having a white mascot is a way to make people more aware of American Indian issues, he said.

"We live in a politically correct society, and sometimes indians get overlooked," he said. "There are so few indians who have clout that there are a lot of things that go unsettled."


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To: governsleastgovernsbest
Great point, one that I hadn't thought of. OK, FReepers, any other white-based mascots out there?

How about the WASPs?

61 posted on 03/10/2002 7:58:31 AM PST by kennyo
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To: Bonaparte
"Fighting Whities" is ok, but I think "White Devils" would have been better. Hope these redskins can make this a national trend.

A future Louis Farrakhan University will pick "White Devils".

62 posted on 03/10/2002 7:58:59 AM PST by CROSSHIGHWAYMAN
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To: real saxophonist

Here they can use this guy's image. And call themselves "The Fighting White Naismith's". I ownder if they know who this guy is?

63 posted on 03/10/2002 8:00:30 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: Labyrinthos
Buckaneers=Buccaneers
64 posted on 03/10/2002 8:00:39 AM PST by Labyrinthos
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To: Polybius
University of Missouri - Rolla 'Miners.'
65 posted on 03/10/2002 8:00:49 AM PST by piasa
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To: isthisnickcool
WONDER!:)
66 posted on 03/10/2002 8:01:13 AM PST by isthisnickcool
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To: LJLucido
Cookies 'n cream?
67 posted on 03/10/2002 8:01:21 AM PST by JamesWilson
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To: blam
:LSU, "Ragin' Cajuns""

Actually, LSU is the "Fightin' Tigers". University of Southwestern Louisiana (USL) is the "Ragin' Cajuns".

68 posted on 03/10/2002 8:02:20 AM PST by Wonder Warthog
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To: real saxophonist
Hey, that's fantastic. Since white people are responsible for the vast majority of technological progress and ONE HUNDRED PERCENT of the human freedom on this planet, we make great mascots. I'm tired of frightened white people who are ashamed or embarassed to be white. White is beautiful, baby, and don't you forget it!
70 posted on 03/10/2002 8:03:09 AM PST by Jonathon Spectre
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To: real saxophonist
didnt robert byrd play for a team called "white niggers"
71 posted on 03/10/2002 8:03:12 AM PST by TheRedSoxWinThePennant
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To: LJLucido
The Honkies???? I Love it! LOL!!!!

This whole issue has become more and more absurd! However, as usual California leads the way.

THE STANFORD "TREE"?

How PC!

72 posted on 03/10/2002 8:04:23 AM PST by stlrocket
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To: mille99
"Tell me again why we're supposed to be offended?"

Its a great name and funny as hell, but I am betting that it is hiding liberal condescension behind 'humor'. Its all in the intent. Their jersey says "Everything is gonna be all white". They are most certainly taking a sucker punch at white rascism.

I really don't get the 'Native American' point. We don't name our sports teams after them because we think think they were lazy drunks.
73 posted on 03/10/2002 8:04:58 AM PST by gjenkins
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To: real saxophonist
Remember Rich Halls Beautiful Thoughts ? One of my favorites, paraphrased :

You know how peoples with fearsome reputations have football teams named after them, like the Trojans, the Romans, the Vikings? Wouldn't it be great if , centuries from now, we have teams named after the Americans?

75 posted on 03/10/2002 8:06:50 AM PST by kaylar
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To: real saxophonist
Remember Rich Halls Beautiful Thoughts ? One of my favorites, paraphrased :

You know how peoples with fearsome reputations have football teams named after them, like the Trojans, the Romans, the Vikings? Wouldn't it be great if , centuries from now, we have teams named after the Americans?

76 posted on 03/10/2002 8:07:05 AM PST by kaylar
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To: real saxophonist
This the best thread today. Even better than the Harding-Jones boxing match one. BTW, I'm still tryig to figure out what the undercard for that fight could be. Maybe some drunk white guy - bump that - some cracker fightin' a kangaroo.
77 posted on 03/10/2002 8:08:35 AM PST by JamesWilson
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To: real saxophonist
Having a white mascot is a way to make people more aware of American Indian issues, he said.

Sorry redguy, predicting a major PR backfire here. From whiteguy.

78 posted on 03/10/2002 8:10:00 AM PST by RGSpincich
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To: real saxophonist
Does "our buddy" The revwun jesse jackasson know bout dis?
79 posted on 03/10/2002 8:11:01 AM PST by Issaquahking
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To: aculeus
Who knows... but the Keepers of the Eastern Door have sure turned into a buncha whiners... and, just for accuracy, 'Mohawk' is wrong... it's Haudenosaunee... ;0)


80 posted on 03/10/2002 8:11:21 AM PST by Chad Fairbanks
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