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Teaching the reality of gay life, Oakland schoolkids learn a rare lesson
SF Chronicle ^ | 3-10-02 | Meridith May

Posted on 03/10/2002 4:15:43 AM PST by Oldeconomybuyer

Edited on 04/13/2004 2:39:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

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To: Canavan
I never went to the school of intellectual dishonesty which you seem to have graduated from. Nowhere have I called for anyone to dislike anyone else. Whenever the school in Oakland decides to bring in wife-swappers in front of children to laud and praise their evil, then we can discuss that topic, too.
62 posted on 03/10/2002 10:30:05 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Amelia
"And what spinoff of the Baptist church has lesbian ministers?"

The Marxist fundamentalist spinoff -- same as the spinoffs from other churches.

Have you never heard of The Religious Left?

63 posted on 03/10/2002 10:31:32 AM PST by Matchett-PI
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To: AlexanderTheGreat
Majority rule only works if you're also considering individual rights. Because you can't have five wolves and one sheep voting on what to have for supper. Larry Flynt

Who writes the rules--laws...the wolves or the sheep?

64 posted on 03/10/2002 10:32:29 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: AlexanderTheGreat
"Homophobia" = irrational fear of homosexuals."

"Homo-phobo-phobia" = the irrational fear of people who feel a perfectly natural revulsion to homosexual behavior, and/or believe that it is morally wrong and should not be taught to children.

Hey, I can't help it. I was born this way.

Am I a bigot because I notice that all the homosexuals I know have AIDS (people I love--too bad they went that way with their lives)? I don't want my kids getting AIDS.

66 posted on 03/10/2002 10:33:29 AM PST by The Old Hoosier
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To: JZoback
Look at his masterpiece "David"

If ole Mick was a bugger, he sure left "David" a little short in the "hung" department.

Michaelangelo's David was undersized and uncircumcised. You might say he had gentle gentile genitals.

67 posted on 03/10/2002 10:33:36 AM PST by TomSmedley
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To: Canavan
I am just not buying into the notion that gays are born that way. There is one important reason that matters to me. The Bible condemns this behavior, and it would not do that if the people were made that way.

And from a biological standpoint, just what gene is it that condemns people to gay behavior?

68 posted on 03/10/2002 10:35:02 AM PST by Don Myers
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To: Canavan
So, you tell me where "excrement smearing" was mentioned as being lauded by the Park Day private school?

You raised a good point, finally. These inurement sessions purport to enlighten children about the wonders of buggery (so wonderful it is that if everyone engaged in it the whole species would die off!) but they'll never bring the class to an AIDS ward to see the fruits of sin, to see the unhappy 'gay' men wasting away in their natural retribution. That sort of reality doesn't fit in well with their agenda of assaulting the innocence of children in their vain attempt at finding reprieve from a seared conscience.

69 posted on 03/10/2002 10:38:11 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Don Myers
And from a biological standpoint, just what gene is it that condemns people to gay behavior?

Oh, you are asking for proof of an alleged gene! How refreshing of a scientific endeavor! Next the left-wing pressure groups will talk about the 'rape gene' so as to excuse rape, too. "I was wired this way. I have no control over my actions."

71 posted on 03/10/2002 10:41:48 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Canavan
Is the sin of being gay worse than the sin of divorce?

How commendable to see you seriously thinking of moral issues, rather than just rolling over and claiming: "MTV says it's okay, so I guess it is." or "The Democratic Party praises this evil, so it must all be all right."

Sodomy destroys both the soul and the body. It is a form of murder.

72 posted on 03/10/2002 10:44:31 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
They wrote essays on famous gay people such as Michelangelo,

There is NO evidence that Michelangelo was homosexual. Of course, this doesn't stop activists from putting self-serving spin on Michelangelo's life. Even the Encyclopedia Britannica describes such spin and the people who do it as "ignorant".
In 1534 Michelangelo left Florence for the last time, though he always hoped to return to finish the projects he had left incomplete. He passed the rest of his life in Rome, working on projects in some cases equally grand but in most cases of quite new kinds. From this time on a large number of his letters to his family in Florence were preserved; many of them concentrated on plans for his nephew's marriage, essential to preserve the family name. Michelangelo's father had died in 1531 and his favourite brother at about the same time; he himself showed increasing anxiety about his age and death. It was just at this time that the nearly 60-year-old artist wrote letters expressing strong feelings of attachment to young men, chiefly to the talented aristocrat Tommaso Cavalieri, later active in Roman civic affairs. These have naturally been interpreted as indications that Michelangelo was a homosexual, but such a reaction according to the artist's own statement would be that of the ignorant. The idea seems even less likely when one considers that no similar indications had emerged when the artist was younger. The correlation of these letters with other new events seems consistent instead with the view that he was seeking a surrogate son, choosing for the purpose a younger man who was admirable in every way and would welcome the role.

73 posted on 03/10/2002 10:50:52 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Letter to the writer of this article:

Dear Meredith:

A very warm and touching story in the Chronicle "Teaching the reality of gay life, Oakland schoolkids learn a rare lesson". You did quite a job on a very promising sounding and inspirational event from the children, especially where one speaker said "I told them to imagine how much they love their mom and then double that," he said. "That's my life." Does this mean that this lifestyle offers twice the amount of love as the kids experience with their Mom and Dads?

Being a transgender might sound like a very attractive experience, what with the male therapist who was once female talking to the sixth-graders.

Let's throw in a few facts about the gay community that may not have been part of the agenda in this uplifting program:

1. The average lifespan for homosexual males is age 45. The average lifespan for heterosexual males is 73.

2. Homosexual males are far more likely than heterosexual males to contract AIDs.

3. NAMBLA promotes sexual relations between men and young boys, and is a substantial backer of homosexual causes in California (even though pedophilia is a crime in all state statutes).

4. A 61% margin of California voters passed Prop 22 clearly stating that marriage is between a man and a woman

5. Focus on the family, Karen Holgate, and other family rights leaders and groups informed California voters about AB1338, and as a result of an extraordinary outpouring of parental outrage, this radical homosexual bill was tabled by Assemblyman Paul Koretz

And on and on. What's your opinion about factual statistics on the other side of this argument? Are they valid within the context of this agenda? Are they included? Are you balanced?

Best Regards, Mission Viejo, CA

75 posted on 03/10/2002 10:54:08 AM PST by gohabsgo
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To: patriot_wes
Next year it will be NAMBLA!

The year after that some proponents of sex with animals will give demonstrations asking for volunteers from the audience. Wait and see, it is coming. They have been joking about it on Saturday Night Live several times this season and the studio audience thinks it is hilarious. But, some people actually approve of this behavior. If this country doesn't turn back to God we are going to be in deeper trouble than most people could ever imagine.

77 posted on 03/10/2002 10:56:59 AM PST by jamaly
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To: Canavan
I'm glad we haven't left yet.

Did they try to have sex with you? Or did they sit you down and offer you a secret ring and give you pamphlets to read so they could "recruit" you for the "movement."?

Nice straw man.

Not only did they try to have sex with me, they tried to lure me in with money and gifts. They also desperately tried to recruit me and others by nearly begging us to have sex with them. Just to try it, and if we didn't like it, we could always walk away. Knowing what I know about the gay lifestyle, it really grieves my spirit to hear gay proponents like yourself.

If they propositioned you, it stands to reason. They are gay, after all, and attracted to other guys.

Unfortunately for you and your bias, as I said above, they tried more than a simple proposition. Now you know the truth so deal with it.

I would presume that you hit on a number of women in your day. Were you trying to "recruit" them?

You presume incorrectly. Women hit on me. Besides that, gay men tried to lure me into the lifestyle while I was still a child. You just don't get it.

78 posted on 03/10/2002 10:58:15 AM PST by scripter
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To: AlexanderTheGreat
How Orwellian to call unhappy, miserable people 'gay.' Are all your words Orwellian?

We'll be keeping an eye on you, who I predict will not be much different from the other 30-day-wonders we see come and go with their foreign and liberal agendas.


** The Supermen **

The AIDS plague has created sympathy for homosexuals. They are using their retribution to get pity, to gain societal acceptance.

"Oh, you want us to die!"

But it's not true. No one wants to see unneeded suffering. They went out, and murdered each other. Rather than realize this, that immorality brings death, they blame society.

Rather than say:
"Oh, we made a terrible mistake. We made our own bed, and now we must lie in it,"

They say:
"We are a third gender, a higher gender. We are the source of civilization. We are the font of civilization. We are superior to men and women. Our lives are more valuable than everyone else's."

So they feel justified in grabbing an enormous amount of the public budget. Heart disease and cancer combined account for some 5 million deaths each year. Yet, the health research budget for AIDS is equal to heart disease and cancer combined. Yet, they still want more money. The only explanation: They think they're supermen, a higher being.

Look at what they call women: COWS.
Look at what they call men: BREEDERS.

That's how they soothe their guilt. They think they're superior beings, the font of civilization.

There's all kinds of sins: fraud, theft, all kinds of cruelties. They're not the worst form of sinners, but it's right up there, with murder.

The superior gender, the supermen, the higher beings. There's a name for it: homofascists.

The San Francisco School Board, confronted by 300 shouting "gays," cower and pass whatever program they want. That's how Nazism started.

 


79 posted on 03/10/2002 11:00:13 AM PST by Cultural Jihad
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