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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

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To: FreedomFriend
(Jesus) did not say to give over your countries, become multicultural, multilingual, and forget your heritage.

I agree with you, plus there are verses in the Bible such as Hebrews 13:17, "Obey your leaders and submit to their authority," which in my mind means OBEY THE LAWS. The illegals in my town not only disobey the law just by being here, but they disobey other laws as well. There's a reason why illegal alien neighborhoods are dangerous; there's a reason why blacks and whites move out when illegals move in. There's a reason why people who live on the border have to get barbed wire fences, guard dogs, and guns. There's a reason why you see bars on doors and windows and graffiti in illegal alien neighborhoods, you hear car alarms going off or you see people brazenly breaking into cars in broad daylight, etc. Would God approve of this? Would He be on the side of illegal aliens who commit these crimes? I don't think so, but maybe I'm wrong.

521 posted on 03/09/2002 12:28:11 PM PST by Nea Wood
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To: sweetliberty
They would hear and see, if enough people can be rallied, the million man march will look like a thimble full.

I stood on a corner or two during the 2000 Presidential election, and watched thousands of other's across the USofA do the same, but the only place you could watch it was Fox News, no other news agency would cover us, we were a non-event. Even though I don't agree with everything I see on Fox News, they won my undying loyalty for covering what no other news agency would cover, and I will never forsake them as a viewer and promoter of their program.

However this did teach me a lesson, to make an impression on Washington, you have to be IN Washington, in their faces. I can't tell you how surreal it felt for me to be unloading a sign from the back of my car and passing curious, sometimes slightly hostile people, on the street to go demonstrate my outrage over the election fraud. I asked myself a time or two, "Just what the heck are you doing girl? This is not what conservative Americans do, this is not the actions of a member of the WASP family. WASP's do not step out of order, or the herd, into the glare of unseemly street corner protests, we earn money, work jobs, pay taxes, keep the machinery oiled and going, wear clean underware and half way decent shoes, this is nutz".

Then rage hit me all over again that this is what we have been brought to, we have been silent and complacent to the point that, other than to be taken out of the closet, and dusted off to be presented to immigrants as an object to be hated, by politicians and socialists now and then, we were expected to remain invisible and silent. Along with our founding principles, our work ethic, our moral ethics of fair play, and our heart felt responsibility to pass on the value and importance of the Constitution, our government is based on, that insures the continuation of our culture of freedom and individual rights.

This is what is being attacked, destroyed, and tossed into the dust bin of history, and this is what we must reach down and have the guts to fight and say no to. This is what we must show up in D.C. to protect and defend, and to remind them that their first order of business is not to call every person on the planet an American or potential American, but rather their first order of business is to protect and defend the people of the United States of America and to show care as to whom we are passing on the torch of the Constitution of the United States to.

We need to remind those that would make our nation a chameleon that changes color, culture, creed, and principles with every group that pops up, that we are founded on principles that are worth holding onto and held in place like a rock that people seeking freedom can find a firm foundation for their foot to stand on.

A person should have more in mind than economic gain when they show up on our shores, they should have more than a desire to change America into the same hell hole they left. They should possess some desire to be an American, not an African American, a Cuban American, a European American, just a plain freakin American will do thank you.

And that those of us that hold to this yard stick of who should be a new citizen are not racists, it doesn't have a danged thing to do with skin color, and this sham will not work on us any longer. It has to do with honoring our sovereignty and borders and creed, principles and ideals and refusing to sit quietly by while Mexico, or any other nation, turns into a Palestine and over runs our borders with invaders that have no desire to be American, who are only here for economic gain at best, and our destruction at worst. We, as natural born Americans, and Americans of good faith, do not intend to reward or intrust our Constitution or the future of our children to the intelligence level displayed by invaders that break our laws and display no respect for our sovereignty. They can come through the same dreary legal routes as other immigrants or elected officals will feel the heat of our displeasure.

I don't think city to city demonstrations will get the job done, or even be covered by the media, I think it will take an in mass presence in D.C. to bring our message to a government with it's fingers stuck deeply in their ears.

523 posted on 03/09/2002 12:30:53 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: VA Advogado
BTW thank you again for you showing your racism and bigotry right out on the open forum. Ready to use profanity in a reply to me now so you can cover all the NO's here on the forum
524 posted on 03/09/2002 12:30:59 PM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: VA Advogado
What truth? That you support the trampling of our laws? IS that it?

Is it that you can't see the reality of the situation. Is that it? Is it that you're for a policy that will result in more taxes on the already over-burdeoned American public? Is it that you are for people jumping in front of people who actually want to be Americans, such as my immigrant friend from Brazil.

You're not making much sense, nor have you refuted the law. Thus, when you have so many people who refute your opinion, as well as what American law says, and for reasons that an amnesty will have devestating effects on America, where's the truth or reason. There is none. That's your position, "NONE". You just go on throwing your verbal slurs against true, patriotic Americans, and you will ever-more be viewed as the individual who wishes to do harm to America. Your intentions may be good, but the pathway to hell, as they say, is paved with good intentions.

525 posted on 03/09/2002 12:31:25 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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To: VA Advogado
I am simply a defender of the truth

A gushing fountain of ignorance is an accurate description of you.

526 posted on 03/09/2002 12:31:31 PM PST by WRhine
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To: Vallandigham
So far on this thread 4 posters have mounted a defense of the President's immigration agenda. 73 have declared themselves furiously opposed to what this agenda is doing to America. (With apologies to anyone whose post I have misconstrued...please mail me to fix) these 73 furious soldiers of the fighting right so far on this thread alone are

Wow almost 0.1% of FR.

Gee General Vallandigham, I guess you feel just as important as the drug legalisers on FR(appx. same number of people). They post and post with outrageous remarks all the time also.

Hey I got an idea, why don't you join up with the drug legalisers and you all can maybe become 0.2% of FR.

Wow, it would be interesting reading of your alls private e-mail about how you are going to reconcile your different animus's towards Mexicans and the drug legalisers love for Mexican pot. LOL!

527 posted on 03/09/2002 12:32:07 PM PST by Dane
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To: Big Meanie
Huh? How many of us do you think know what you're talking about, when you say things like "(g)(1) Notwithstanding section 1342 of title 31," ???

Have you ever seen a federal law?

528 posted on 03/09/2002 12:32:38 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Vallandigham
73 furious soldiers of the fighting right

And damn proud to be associated with all of them.

529 posted on 03/09/2002 12:33:22 PM PST by Brownie74
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To: Native American Female Vet
BTW thank you again for you showing your racism and bigotry right out on the open forum. Ready to use profanity in a reply to me now so you can cover all the NO's here on the forum

I dont have bigotry in my sceen name.

530 posted on 03/09/2002 12:34:00 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: Vallandigham
I hope anyone with the Fed that jots these names down gets the spelling right, despite my lack of faith in their ability to do so.
531 posted on 03/09/2002 12:34:02 PM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: FreedomFriend;rightofrush;Semaphore Heathcliffe; WDG55513;Major Malfunction;ratcat;Carry_Okie...
Hello everyone,

This morning I mailed and faxed four letters. The first went to Bush, in which I told him he had lost my vote and was about to lose allot more. The other three went out to the Arizona Representatives and stated that a yes vote for 245i was a no vote for them in the next election.

I hope everyone contacts the President and their Representatives. They would not be in office without us, so lets let them know that we can and will remove them from office.

Marine Inspector

533 posted on 03/09/2002 12:35:17 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: MissAmericanPie
I don't think city to city demonstrations will get the job done, or even be covered by the media, I think it will take an in mass presence in D.C. to bring our message to a government with it's fingers stuck deeply in their ears

I still think your demonstrations should be held on Columbus Day, IMHO.

You all can join up with the leftists who hate Columbus for finding America, and can express your animus at a person who represented the Hispanic crown.

534 posted on 03/09/2002 12:36:16 PM PST by Dane
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To: Vallandigham
What a hall of shame.
535 posted on 03/09/2002 12:37:30 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: goldstategop
"Exactly. If the President goes through with this the base may well decide to stay home in November."

Instead of staying away from the polls, why not go and vote for anyone BUT the one/two party enablers? Someone who is not obligated to follow the Globalist Agenda? ANYBODY but a Repub or Dem.

537 posted on 03/09/2002 12:39:50 PM PST by rdavis84
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To: Big Meanie
Is that what you call the truth?
538 posted on 03/09/2002 12:40:12 PM PST by VA Advogado
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To: rdavis84
Instead of staying away from the polls, why not go and vote for anyone BUT the one/two party enablers? Someone who is not obligated to follow the Globalist Agenda? ANYBODY but a Repub or Dem.

That's my plan. I'm actually considering changing my party affiliation to Independent.

539 posted on 03/09/2002 12:45:11 PM PST by Marine Inspector
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To: Dane
And how much of a percentage does four people make? Since this thread is able to be viewed by all of the FreeRepublic contingent, I'd say that 73 to 4 is a pretty good cross reference or survey of the opinions of freerepublic. I've seen many people who hardly ever get involved in the immigration threads show up in vocal opposition to this amnesty nonsense.

Not long ago, I conducted a Free Republic poll on abortion. Like myself, around 85% of the respondents were Pro-Life, whereas only 13% were Pro-Abortion. Much like abortion, most Freepers do not support amnesty.

540 posted on 03/09/2002 12:51:11 PM PST by FreedomFriend
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