Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm
Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.
President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said. That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service. It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty. "The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico." The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I. The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members. Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal. The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.
I think you answered your own question. Your impressions are spot on. Most liberals don't like conservatives.
If it wasn't for Dane who would stand up to your ignorant rantings? You're all like bugs and he's the can of Raid around here.
Hmmm. Does Danevogado think that only the Dane half is spewing Danevogado's poison, and not the VA Avogado half, or is Danevogado slipping up and unconsiously comingling his two identities, inadvertently admitting that VA Alvogado types just like Dane?
Still, tis sad that Danevogado is so lonely that he has to resort to talking to himself in the third person.
Hey, bam, better watch your step: "Dane" is "standing up to you", so says VA Avogado. And that there's a threat which is only half as intimidating as it appears.
Last chance to vote sensibly before millions of amnestified-illegals nullify our votes.
It wasn't really that close-- each party decided who would be sacrificed, because they know it doesn't make any difference, so long as there are only the RATs and PUBBIEs to deal with-- and they can keep people believing that the parties are representative of FRee people.
If the guy really wanted to "help Mexico", what a about a big check? He could say something like, "they were hurt too by 9/11, so let's help our neighbor". No one mad, except for a few people upset over a "giveaway". He could have negotiated it a long time ago; set up the Mexicans to say happy words about the terrible things recently inflicted on the US; blah blah. Everyone Happy, Happy. Babble about creating "infrastructure" in Mexico (they're broke, so somebody building them a few roads would be a great PR event).
That's my point. This guy is frozen on one solution; he's convinced that there's only one way to do this. Crap. There's nine million other ways, but they can't see past their fixation. It's just dumb. Political Constipation.
Whoops, I forgot about what I said about ignoring you, though it was directed towards your Dane alias.
Don't blame yourself for getting confused; it's being read by the same person, regardless. The only open question is whether Danevogado is a free lance who just "gets off" on abuse, or if he is working in a government or NGO office somewhere, in an unofficial or semi-official capacity. So there's the mystery: is Danevogado motivated by bile, or by money?
IT's odd that when Dane shows up, you're shortly behind. Just admit it, you're Dane. You're not fooling anyone. Like I said, everytime he is on, there you are. When he is off, you're nowhere to be around. Coincidence? Na, I don't think so.
Psst....don't give it any ideas. It might start rotating identities rather than using them simultaneously.
On second thought, nevermind. That might actually be prefereable.
Well, that's true too. But this is a political miscalculation. They intentionally alienated their base for a minor payback; that doesn't make sense. It shows an utter lack of identifying alternatives.
I think there was a lot of money and political capital riding on this vote, a lot of deal making both on Capitol Hill and between Washington and Mexico (including oil related issues, a prime concern to Bush and Cheney). Clearly our opinions are a distant third or fouth place priority here. We simply have no representation in Washington on this as on many other issues.
If we could clearly see all of the deals and all of the self-interests at play here, we would not say that this vote makes no sense; clearly, to those in the know, it makes perfect sense. It's just that we are not in the know.
Nope, and the reason as you know is massive 3rd world immigration since that time. I have to believe Bush understands well the political implications of uncontrolled immigration better than just about anyone. His actions indicate that he doesn't care if this hurts conservative republicans. The plan I think is to take the party further left and threaten conservatives all the way with the alternative of heavy socialism under the democrats.
I did that in the last election, just to see how Harry would do. I knew Texas was a shoe-in for Bush, but I also vote third party so I can stand to look at myself in the mirror. And...
I also went and screamed my lungs out at a Bush rally in downtown, lined up across the street from the Dems. They were generally a vile collection of misfits and retreads. And now I know I was rallying for one who serves the Dem cause as whole-heartedly as those whom we faced that day in Nov2K.
Ah yes, the annoying "property owners." Those will be dealt with summarily over the next few decades.
/Globalist Swine
Bush wasn't paying attention to the California elections it appears. Why do I get the impression he doesn't really like conservatives?
Because he does not, of course; like father, like son. Bush Jr. has been slyly dissing conservatives ever since he locked eyes on the presidency, if not earlier. "Compassionate conservativism" is nothing more than a subtle swipe at conservatives, who are, apparently, not "compassionate" in Bush's eyes.
It was a very bad day when the liberal wing of the GOP foisted Bush Sr. on Reagan as his running mate. That one action doomed the conservative movement at the presidential level as effectively as the entry of the neo-cons into the conservative movement doomed movement conservatism to irrelevency. It took 20 years, but it was inevitable. The accomplishments of the conservative movement and the new right which came to fruition under Reagan in 1980, have been effectively nullified from within. The liberal Republican, northeastern establishment which looked defeated and on the way out in 1980, has effectively rallied and returned to power. True, they claim to be "Reagan conservatives", but their agenda is that of the northeastern liberal Republican establishment which Reagan fought against. Worse, they have effectively passed themselves off as the mainstream of the GOP and of the conservative movement.
Ho hum, now we have to be creative about how to burn him down before he does that to the country.
Er, Umm, I guess when you turn INS over to a nitwit who does nothing except cry about the fact that he's in charge of an agency he "doesn't agree with", and some of this agency's "customers" go and kill 3000 human beings, that probably qualifies as already letting the country get burned down. Kinda like putting the Arellano-Felix brothers in charge of DEA.
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