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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
Denver Post ^ | March 8, 2002 | Bill McAllister

Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm

Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.

President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.

That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.

It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.

"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."

The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.

The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.

Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.

The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.


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To: Vallandigham;PRS;MissAmericanPie;Reaganwuzthebest; Age of Reason;WRhine;blueriver;GaConfed;
I forgot to reply to the "cloaking" part of the previous comments. It means that by using the "voice vote", their votes won't be documented on their Congressional records.

How cute.

However, the folks at NumbersUSA and FAIR have announced that they will record and publish the voting records, and that a vote "Yea" will be recorded as being against responsible immigration.

Call Speaker Hastert, 202-225-2976 - and ask him how he's enjoying his last term as Speaker of the House?

If they think I and others won't base their future votes on this bill if it passes, then the only way they can count on me to vote for Pres. Bush, is to oppose him with either Hitlery or Gore - because that's the only way they can guarantee that I won't be able to vote for a Democrat. (Egads, I should have given myself a "Barf Alert" for that last sentence!)

1,721 posted on 03/12/2002 9:12:53 AM PST by TruthNtegrity
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To: sarcasm
Call and give them hell. I already did this morning and they are not my congressmen. Even if they are not your rep., still call and give them hell because they are the House Leadership and are responsible for bringing this to the floor for a vote. They will be responsible for the backlash that Republicans will receive for rewarding law breakers post 9-11. Don't let up. Phone calls and faxes are much better than email.

Hastert 202-225-2976 phone
Army 202- 225-7772 phone
Delay 202-225-5951 phone

1,722 posted on 03/12/2002 9:12:57 AM PST by healey22
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To: mancini
I think the overarching aim here is to break down the borders of this country so that in time it does not resemble anything it once was.

I think the overreaching aim here, is to make sure we don't have borders-- by order of NAFTA and WTO.

1,723 posted on 03/12/2002 9:13:05 AM PST by let freedom sing
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
WRine, have you heard anything that this was going to be a recorded vote and not cloaked as they planned? If that's true, at least we'll be able to see who the sellouts are. There seems to be some confusion out there on this.

According to the Wash. Times the 245I vote will be cloaked, meaning that the reps vote will NOT be recorded. The numbersUSA site is indicating that the votes will be recorded. See Below:

The House is scheduled to vote on the Section 245(i) amnesty next Tuesday (March 12). Although the White House had been pushing to have the House pass 245i without a vote by attaching it in Conference Committee to an authorization bill, it now appears there will be a roll call vote on the issue. Now is the time to act. Your phone calls are urgently needed.

1,724 posted on 03/12/2002 9:14:22 AM PST by WRhine
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To: Vallandigham
H.R. 1885 - Enhanced Border Security and Visa Entry Reform Act of 2002 (House Amendment to Senate Amendment)

That's rich. Almost as much of a lie as the U.S.A. Patriot act. GODDDDADDDDDDDITTTTTT!!!!!!!!!!!!

EBUCK

1,726 posted on 03/12/2002 9:22:46 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: Vallandigham; ALL
I just saw this on the bottom of the screen on cspan

UPDATE: U.S. House: Illegal Immigrants in U.S. LIVE today 2 pm ET on C-SPAN

1,727 posted on 03/12/2002 9:23:33 AM PST by Native American Female Vet
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To: VA Advogado
Case law is not a cite from the Constitution. You are a deliberate liar, boy. You'll state, "According to the Constitution the federal government has the lawful power to have us all castrated at age 12." When someone says, "Where in the Constitution does this appear?" you reply, "In Joe Blow vs Gross T. Pimplepopper,113 US 261, 1999." And that is no answer at all.

I'm done with you, imbecile. You're not a conservative, you aren't an attorney and you most assuredly are not a FReeper. Go find a forum for imbeciles and stop wasting the time of people here.

1,728 posted on 03/12/2002 9:26:52 AM PST by Twodees
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To: Vallandigham
I'm guessing you don't live in Texas. They're always for looser immigration. And remember that Texans were some of the biggest NAFTA supporters, too.
1,729 posted on 03/12/2002 9:27:01 AM PST by mdwakeup
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To: Vallandigham
Everything is for sale, now. Citizenship can be had for $1000 dollars. Disgusting. Instant citizen doesn't mean anything.
1,730 posted on 03/12/2002 9:27:47 AM PST by monkeywrench
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To: PRND21
When did Arne cite anything other than his repertoire of foul epithets? You're confusing him with avocadoboy who thinks that case law equals a Constitutional amendment.

Your buddy got his ignorant, foulmouthed head handed to him here.

1,732 posted on 03/12/2002 9:39:57 AM PST by Twodees
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To: Vallandigham; burlem; saundra duffy; diver dave; elk grove dan; gophack; grlfrnd; meeknming
The Mexican government estimates that between 300 and 500 thousand Mexicans would be permitted to remain in the United States as a result of the extension.

No on 245i. Mexico will do nothing about possible terrorist illegals they let pass thru our borders.

1,733 posted on 03/12/2002 9:41:19 AM PST by let freedom sing
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To: Rowdee
Ma'am, the handwriting is sure'nuff on the wall. What we're seeing is an open merger of the "two" parties. I knew that when this merger came it would come under a republican administration. I also knew that once we saw the merger beginning to happen, we would know that it's too late to redeem the GOP.

The old people I knew who kept saying in the 60's that the GOP would never be conservative no matter how many of us joined it knew exactly what they were talking about. When I saw thousands of Southern conservatives lining up in 2000 for the koolaid handed out by a Connecticut yankee pretending to be a Texan, it appeared to me that this world is just too ridiculous a place to be believed.

I hate to be so mean, but IMO, anyone who ever believed that Bush was a conservative is too far gone to ever really be awakened. They'll get a little ticked off, but come election time, their eyes will glaze over again and they'll close ranks, chanting, " At least he ain't a Dem". You watch. I've seen it too many times in the past 20 years.

1,734 posted on 03/12/2002 9:53:46 AM PST by Twodees
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To: Vallandigham
House Majority Leader Dick Armey, Texas Republican, said House approval "will send a message to the world that our country will continue to be a beacon to all who love freedom and the opportunity to live, work and raise a family."

Continue to be a beacon to all who love freedom? Oh sure the illegals love the freedom to come to America to prey on American citizens. After all, 50 percent of the criminals in federal prison are illegal aliens. This sickening attempt by Bush and the GOP in congress to pander to the 'hispanic' will go down in history as the turning point in American politics. Both political parties are corrupt. Both political parties spit on the consitution, the rule of law and spit on the way of future generations of Americans.

NOTE.. I just called the majority leaders office. I asked the staff person how Armey intends to vote. She said she had no idea and that he has been going back and forth and that the vote is expected at around 6:30 pm et today. I then asked her what his last stated position was. She said she wouldn't have that type of information.... Thats when I ripped into her saying I would bet all your money and all the money from all the people in that office that he will vote in favor of amnesty for the illegals. In order to pander to hispanics he intends to spit on the constitution, the rule of law and the way of life for future generations of Americans. I said it's a heck of a way for a DICK Armey to leave office. Who knows, maybe Bush will nominate DICK to head the INS...That is if Bush doesn't propose dismantling it...

1,735 posted on 03/12/2002 9:58:01 AM PST by majordivit
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To: HennepinPrisoner
You read my mind....He doesn't have to deal with this on a daily basis like I do.....I am so tired of hearing a foreign language everywhere I go.....Apparently they have no intention of learning our native language either....If this goes through the President can let lost.....I had really hoped he was a true patriot but I guess not......
1,736 posted on 03/12/2002 10:03:12 AM PST by rawe
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To: majordivit
I just called my rep again (DeFazio D-OR). Turns out he's on a plane bound for D.C.. She said that they've had hundreds of calls about this already today, and guess what, all in opposition. Not one positive call. Oregon, you're making me proud.

EBUCK

1,737 posted on 03/12/2002 10:04:35 AM PST by EBUCK
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To: EBUCK
It's very clear they have placed themselves in the enemy camp of invading hordes, they have set themselves against the people.
1,739 posted on 03/12/2002 10:13:06 AM PST by MissAmericanPie
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To: EBUCK
Did she say how Defauzio is going to vote? If he votes no it might be the first time i've agreed with him in 15 years:)
1,740 posted on 03/12/2002 10:18:06 AM PST by Oregon Coast Conservative
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