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Tancredo doubts he can block amnesty-extension bill
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| March 8, 2002
| Bill McAllister
Posted on 03/08/2002 1:24:33 PM PST by sarcasm
Friday, March 08, 2002 - WASHINGTON - Rep. Tom Tancredo takes credit for thwarting the Bush administration's last effort to offer partial amnesty to thousands of illegal residents, but Thursday the outspoken immigration foe said he may have been outmaneuvered by the White House.
President Bush has struck a deal with the House leadership to place legislation that offers an extension of amnesty on its consent calendar before Bush heads to Mexico for a state visit next week, the Colorado Republican said.
That action should ensure quick House passage of legislation that Bush has repeatedly sought from Congress. It would allow an undocumented person to receive legal standing, such as a valid green card, by filing a declaration with the Immigration and Naturalization Service.
It presumably also would require the person to have been in the United States by a certain date and have filed a declaration with the INS from an appropriate sponsor, such as a relative or employer, and pay a $1,000 penalty.
"The terms are still up in the air," said Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration, a group that has been allied with Tancredo. "We've heard to the effect that the president wants something to bring down to Mexico."
The initial Bush proposal, designed exclusively for Mexicans, once was high on the president's legislative wish list, but it was delayed after the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11. However, as the president noted Wednesday in a speech to the Hispanic Chamber of Commerce, he now is pushing for the extension of the amnesty program known by the section of immigration law that covers it, Section 245I.
The president hailed it as a way to reunite family, separated by the border. "If you believe in family values, if you understand the worth of family and the importance of family, let's get 245I out of the United States Congress and give me a chance to sign it," Bush told the chamber members.
Tancredo, the head of a congressional caucus on immigration issues and proponent of halting virtually all immigration, said he had blocked a previous attempt by Bush to push an extension of the amnesty program through the House. But this time, he said House Speaker J. Dennis Hastert, R-Ill., had agreed to place the issue on the suspension, or consent, calendar, making it difficult to defeat the proposal.
The Senate might be more favorable to the bill than the House, expanding the numbers of individuals who can apply, Tancredo said.
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KEYWORDS: freetrade; hughhewitt; immigrantlist; nwo; terrorwar
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To: sarcasm
"It seems that the powers that be are bound and determined to destroy the conservative movement."Bingo! It does seem that way.
To: blueriver
This is but one example of positive immigration. There are more, and your smart enough to figure it out.
But, yes we should slow down Immigration to a near stand still.
To: Scratch shooter
Hey, that is what I do. I deliver pizzas because I am unable to find employment with my degree. There have been layoffs and, without any formal experience, only the experienced job applicants are given an interview.
The same goes for my friend from Brazil. In Brazil, he was an engineer. On the other hand, in America, he is a pizza delivery driver.
And the more you look at it, the more you're seeing grown men such as myself doing a college kid job. The jobs have been downsized, given to illegal aliens, given to H1B visas, or have been shipped overseas. Many of us try our opportunity of starting a small business, but with the taxation of the day over ninety percent of small businesses fail within three years.
It's not a good time in history to be an American Entrepreneur.
To: Marine Inspector
IMMIGRATION: to come into a country of which one is not a native for permanent residence
So professor, what is your point? I am still correct. The constitution gives congress the exclusive power over both.
To: Marine Inspector
Do you always cover for Twodees after he's been publicly humiliated?
To: Big Meanie
Wow after your reply(rant) #1134, I guess the people who market Marachi music can wipe your name off the list.
Actually if any Marachi music marketer is lurking, he/she could look at Vallandigham's list and see that a whole 85 people hate Marachi music and that those people believe that Marachi music is a Bilerberger plot to take over the world.
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03/10/2002 11:50:55 AM PST
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Dane
To: FreedomFriend
Hey, that is what I do. I deliver pizzas because I am unable to find employment with my degree. And what is your degree in?
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03/10/2002 11:53:48 AM PST
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Dane
To: RnMomof7
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Freeple Sheeple"That is a perfect name for them
To: VA Advogado
So professor, what is your point? I am still correct. The constitution gives congress the exclusive power over both.Sorry Mr. Lawyer, it does not. See below.
Title 1, Section 8: TThe Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes, duties, imposts and excises, to pay the debts and provide for the common defense and general welfare of the United States; but all duties, imposts and excises shall be uniform throughout the United States;
To borrow money on the credit of the United States;
To regulate commerce with foreign nations, and among the several states, and with the Indian tribes;
To establish a uniform rule of naturalization, and uniform laws on the subject of bankruptcies throughout the United States;
To coin money, regulate the value thereof, and of foreign coin, and fix the standard of weights and measures;
To provide for the punishment of counterfeiting the securities and current coin of the United States;
To establish post offices and post roads;
To promote the progress of science and useful arts, by securing for limited times to authors and inventors the exclusive right to their respective writings and discoveries;
To constitute tribunals inferior to the Supreme Court;
To define and punish piracies and felonies committed on the high seas, and offenses against the law of nations;
To declare war, grant letters of marque and reprisal, and make rules concerning captures on land and water;
To raise and support armies, but no appropriation of money to that use shall be for a longer term than two years;
To provide and maintain a navy;
To make rules for the government and regulation of the land and naval forces;
To provide for calling forth the militia to execute the laws of the union, suppress insurrections and repel invasions;
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the militia, and for governing such part of them as may be employed in the service of the United States, reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress;
To exercise exclusive legislation in all cases whatsoever, over such District (not exceeding ten miles square) as may, by cession of particular states, and the acceptance of Congress, become the seat of the government of the United States, and to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the consent of the legislature of the state in which the same shall be, for the erection of forts, magazines, arsenals, dockyards, and other needful buildings;--And
To make all laws which shall be necessary and proper for carrying into execution the foregoing powers, and all other powers vested by this Constitution in the government of the United States, or in any department or officer thereof.
Please point out were the word IMMIGRATION is in Title 1, Section 8?
To: FreedomFriend
Hey, that is what I do. I deliver pizzas because I am unable to find employment with my degree. There have been layoffs and, without any formal experience, only the experienced job applicants are given an interview. If it's any consolation - experienced job applicants may get an interview - but they are not getting jobs!
To: VA Advogado; Dane
Just a detail, but do you use One Computer and keep deleting the login/I.D. Cookie, then logging in as the alternate name? (Which is probably too much hassle for you).
Or do you have two cheapy computers with each one on a different login/screenname?
You're not the only one doing that. There are giveaways that you all have that tip off those watching for them.
To: VA Advogado
To: Marine Inspector You do know the difference between Naturalization and Immigration, don't you?
Why dont you tell me professor.
The man is a dedicated INS agent, fool.
Show some respect.
To: carreon
"I just don't understand why you are attacking the same people that do all the work you won't do?" Nobody is attacking anybody. We are trying to preserve OUR way of life which, at the current rate of growth due to illegal immigration, will be impossible to do. We do not want to be another third world country.
And as far as the people only doing the jobs that Americans won't do, that is hogwash. In the company I work for I have seen some who do not even know the language well enough to do the job without tying up the time of other employees and compromising THEIR productivity while they're acting as translators. The lowest paying position that I know of in the company is $8 an hour. Not a great wage, but significantly above minimum wage and there is no shortage of AMERICAN applicants. I can't speak for other companies but I expect that mine is not an isolated experience.
To: Don Myers
re: your 1040 (a most unfortunate post number this time of year, Don!) - great explanation to show how the illegal immigration problem is just part of the overall deterioration of the constitutional republic. One of the great difficulties in defending an anti-illegal immigration stance is that most of the "sensitive and inclusive" people who view you as a snarling troglodyte only see things in very narrow focus. Chalk this condition up to a great success of our public skools and liberal conditioning: these people cannot see an issue in its greater context. They defend illegal immgration because the hard-workin' undocumented aliens just want a better life, like all the immigrants that came before. Nevermind the unprecedented welfare state programs that were unavailable to the earlier immigrants.They support gun control because it might save a child, somewhere, somehow. Nevermind the endless historical evidence showing how utterly helpless an unarmed populace is in the face of a government set on controlling them by armed force. Etcetera, etcetera, ad nauseum.
To: Marine Inspector
So you're saying the states have the right to regulate immigration?
To: HennepinPrisoner
Thank god for these illegals....my grandmother can now enjoy the taste of an apple before she dies! HP, that is such a heart-warming story. Now if she can also enjoy a crisp, refreshing head of lettuce, this will be the Happiest Story Ever. Gosh, open borders really are a good thing!
To: Marine Inspector
The man is a dedicated INS agent, fool.
I didnt think the professor worked for the feds anymore. I'm still waiting for him to tell me if the states have the right to regulate immigration. LOL
To: sarcasm
To: sweetliberty; dennisw
There is a LOT of good information on this thread. It is worth the time to read and post to if you haven't already. There's a genuine sea change reflected on this thread. That was evident even on Friday night.
Hello Dennis, just wanted to send this your way. I know these anti-illegales threads get repetitive and frustrating, but you might find this one refreshing. When you have ten or fifteen hours to kill, of course.
To: TEXICAN II
Mr. Bush, the Younger, really believes, I think, he is doing what he is compelled by moral reasons, to do. As was every would-be dictator in world history. NONE of these people think,"Well,let's see how evil I can be!" They ALL are convinced they do what they do for moral reasons,because they "know what is best for you." I'm sure Bubba-2 sincerely believes the US would be better off as a member of a nation-state that is run by corporate government. ESPECIALLY one that helps keep his family in power and wealth.
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