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1 posted on 03/07/2002 11:06:46 PM PST by JohnHuang2
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To: Black Jade
fyi
2 posted on 03/07/2002 11:13:51 PM PST by Fish out of Water
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To: JohnHuang2
"...the Saudi Arabia government helped "sustain" the al-Qaida network inside the kingdom as well as in the Balkans, Afghanistan and Somalia,"...........indeed. Every place there is persecution of Christians. Some friends we have. And yes, its such a peaceful religion.
4 posted on 03/08/2002 12:07:05 AM PST by brat
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I'm too tired to thoroughly digest this now, but at the moment, I'd say I believe everything but the idea that "Washington didn't know".
6 posted on 03/08/2002 3:54:35 AM PST by Lion's Cub
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To: JohnHuang2
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7 posted on 03/08/2002 7:50:31 AM PST by Free the USA
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To: vannrox,veronica,Wallaby,Uncle Bill,golitely,archy,aristeides,Fred Mertz,Plummz,Chapita,ChaseR,Ro
Very important article.

THis article claims that the CIA did send the info about the Saudis back to Washington. Was it being sent somewhere else or being sat upon/ Why isn't George Tenet in the hot seat for this? Or was Tenet ordered by Clinton and then Bush not to have the info sent to Washington?

The Saudis call Hamas freedom fighters and not terrorists. The Saudis heavily support Hamas terror operations in Israel AND in the US. Hams is currently working closely with AlQaeda and Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad and helped in the 9/11 attacks and in the OKC bombing.

The Saudis paid for the huge arms cache on board an Iranina frieghter intecepted by Israel on its way to Arafat and the PLO (Arafat AND the Saudis lied to Bush about this)

Prince Abdullah's peace plan is not to be trusted and is the same plan that Bush hattched and Colin Powell was to have proposed to the UN on 9/11 without having consulted the Israels! The plan also gives the PLO control over Christian Holy sites in Jersusalem.

Saudi billionaire Khalid Mahfouz bankrolled the Holy Land Foundation and InfoCom who supported Hamas, AlQaeda and Iraqi terrorists out of Dallas for over 9 years. Mahfouz was implicated in the attacks on the USS Cole. Mahfouz was involved in corrupt business deals with GW Bush and Jackson Stephens at Harken Energy.

Bush ordered the FBI to back off investigating Saudi Royal Family business operations in the US one month before the 9/11 attacks.

8 posted on 03/08/2002 10:31:58 AM PST by OKCSubmariner
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To: flamefront
BUMP

Please See replies #15, #16.

18 posted on 03/08/2002 3:21:56 PM PST by OKCSubmariner
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"They need our money more than we need their oil," Taylor and Carpenter wrote in a Nov. 16 commentary. "Repeat after us: 'There is no "oil weapon."'"

Absolutely correct. Far too many people still think we must stay friends with the House of Saud because of oil.

"If there's a case for turning the other cheek when it comes to the Saudis, it's that any regime replacing the House of Saud would probably be worse than the one we're dealing with now," Taylor and Carpenter said.

Maybe. It is up to the House of Saud to show that their value to us is enough to justify our continued support. Based on what has made it into the public domain, their time has passed. Perhaps the behind the scenes help has been better, but there is little visible evidence that this is so.

If a formal break comes, I do not expect any problem from the break itself. We have now had enough time to mitigate the loss of a formerly critical airbase in Saudi Arabia. Ending the chimera of friendship may make it much easier to do what needs to be done.

We might have a problem if open hostilities erupted between Saudi Arabia and the U.S. We could swat them like a fly militarily, but the presence of Mecca and Medina on Saudi soil would make things complicated. Any perceived threat to these locations could easily unify all of Islam against the U.S. We do not want a war against all of Islam, but it could certainly happen.

27 posted on 03/09/2002 10:47:16 AM PST by EternalHope
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To: JohnHuang2; Fish out of Water; Energy_List; *Clash of Civilizatio; *TerrOrWar; *Geopolitics...
"Solicitors went to workplaces and mosques and sought contributions, and these funds flowed to the Balkans – where al-Qaida operated," he told WND. The State Department was contacted but did not immediately return phone calls seeking comment.

Balkans and the State Department, eh? BIN LADEN GATE

33 posted on 03/19/2002 9:53:15 PM PST by Spar
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Springmann estimated he was forced to approve "about 100" illicit visas while at his post. He told WND he kept a file on each one he was ordered to issue by senior consulate officials.

"I made a photocopy of their visa application with a notation that it was rejected but the consulate general had ordered it to be issued," he said. "I learned after I departed Jeddah that these files had been destroyed."

"Several U.S. foreign-service officers repeatedly called attention to these and other problems," Hunter says. But "by not correcting these problems, by squashing dissent, the U.S. became a sort of accomplice in its own injuries," a reference to 9-11 and other attacks against U.S. interests.

I wonder how many "suitcase handshakes" (arabic slang for a very large cash bribe) have passed between Suadi princes and high US officials?

37 posted on 03/20/2002 9:13:54 AM PST by Travis McGee
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