Saudis helped 'sustain' al-Qaida?

WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, March 8, 2002 | By Jon Dougherty

[JohnHuang2]

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[Fish out of Water]

fyi

[brat]

"...the Saudi Arabia government helped "sustain" the al-Qaida network inside the kingdom as well as in the Balkans, Afghanistan and Somalia,"...........indeed. Every place there is persecution of Christians. Some friends we have. And yes, its such a peaceful religion.

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[Lion's Cub]

I'm too tired to thoroughly digest this now, but at the moment, I'd say I believe everything but the idea that "Washington didn't know".

[Free the USA]

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[OKCSubmariner]

Very important article.

THis article claims that the CIA did send the info about the Saudis back to Washington. Was it being sent somewhere else or being sat upon/ Why isn't George Tenet in the hot seat for this? Or was Tenet ordered by Clinton and then Bush not to have the info sent to Washington?

The Saudis call Hamas freedom fighters and not terrorists. The Saudis heavily support Hamas terror operations in Israel AND in the US. Hams is currently working closely with AlQaeda and Hezbollah and Islamic Jihad and helped in the 9/11 attacks and in the OKC bombing.

The Saudis paid for the huge arms cache on board an Iranina frieghter intecepted by Israel on its way to Arafat and the PLO (Arafat AND the Saudis lied to Bush about this)

Prince Abdullah's peace plan is not to be trusted and is the same plan that Bush hattched and Colin Powell was to have proposed to the UN on 9/11 without having consulted the Israels! The plan also gives the PLO control over Christian Holy sites in Jersusalem.

Saudi billionaire Khalid Mahfouz bankrolled the Holy Land Foundation and InfoCom who supported Hamas, AlQaeda and Iraqi terrorists out of Dallas for over 9 years. Mahfouz was implicated in the attacks on the USS Cole. Mahfouz was involved in corrupt business deals with GW Bush and Jackson Stephens at Harken Energy.

Bush ordered the FBI to back off investigating Saudi Royal Family business operations in the US one month before the 9/11 attacks.

[OKCSubmariner]

Please see reply #8.

Also the Saudis persecute Christians in Saudi Arabia. The penalty for converting from Islam to Chrisianity to Islam in Saudi Arabia is death. There is a story about Saudi persecution of Christians on the WorldNet Daily Web site today.

Islam is not a religion of peace. It is a religon of conquest. The Saudis are the leading backers of Islam. They are extreme AntiChristians.

[rdavis84]

I might have misunderstood, but it appears the info was turned over to the CIA "Station" there, not direct to the U.S. HQ. ----

"All U.S. intelligence gathered in the U.S. Mission was turned over to the CIA station, which generally did not send the information on to Washington," he said. The mission "consequently failed to provide information about the widespread role of Saudi Arabia – actually elements in certain ministries – in sustaining al-Qaida," the terrorist group founded by Osama bin Laden and blamed for the Sept. 11 attacks, inside the kingdom and elsewhere.

[rdavis84]

"THis article claims that the CIA did send the info about the Saudis back to Washington."

You intended to write "did Not", correct?

[OKCSubmariner]

I made a serious typo error in reply #8. Please note the following correction:

This article claims that the CIA did NOT send the info about the Saudis back to Washington.

[OKCSubmariner]

Thank you for catching my error. You are right about the mistake I made. Sorry.

See reply #12 for the correction.

[rdavis84]

We're on the Same Page :-)

[F16Fighter]

Good points...AND for the most part TOTALLY IGNORED by both the State Department and the Media.

Very troubling issues:

WHY has the CIA been covering for the Saudis? WHO has really been pulling the strings?

WHY have Clinton (understandably so), and now Bush been laying off the Saudis in light of overwhelming evidence of an overtly HUGE hand in sponsoring terrorism? Such evidence suggests the Saudis are THE ring-leaders of world-terrorism.

WHY is the Bush State Department still playing nerf-ball with the Saudis?

Is that part of the world so genetically insane, unreasonable, and vile that the Saudis, according to the know-it-alls at the think-tank at the St. Dept., are considered the best and most dependable hope for Arab stability and "friendship"?

Dammit -- they have declared war -- what are we waiting for??

[zog]

--nice article, but hardly anyone will want to hear of it, because "it just can't happen". There just can't be any white guys or 'muricans involved in 9-11. The story definetly implicates saudis and other assorted bogus mad jihaders, but it's also got these teensy sentences about spooks on the US taxpayer dole, and maybe even some more "people". Embrassing stuff, so it can't exist. Even thinking that makes you a terrorist, doncha know.

I'd like to see more follow ups on this, this and the insider stock trading. They've only had 6 months now to cover their tracks, and that story is deader'n a dodo in the shamestream press. That's a lot of time to shred documents, wipe hard drives, and reinsert "innocent' stuff, and possibly create believable legends for some patsies to take the fall if it ever is forced out. The stock trading should have been by far one of the bigger stories pursued, and that it hasn't been, almost universally, just goes to show how much total raw control these "they" guys have over all the media.

[OKCSubmariner]

There is another thread running with good discussion on FreeRepublic about the same WND article:

U. S. Intelligence under Clinton sold out to Al Queda through Saudi influence

Here is a higly significant reply from that thread:

To: boston_liberty

I work for the Dept. of Defense and have been overseas working in U.S. embassies and consulates since 1988. I can well believe Hunter's ordeal - he sounds like a real rarity among the hundreds of State Department officers I've known. Of the hundreds I've known I could count on the fingers of one hand those who would have been worth the powder it would take to blow them up. The vast, vast majority are corrupt at worst and merely incompetent and/or inept at best. I know of two U.S. Ambassadors who skimmed hundreds of thousands of dollars out of embassy operating funds (one was a Reagan appointee, the other a Clinton appointee - the Reagan appointee was required to pay the funds back and banned from the Foreign Service, the Clinton appointee retired with honors and - this is the truth - bought a villa in Italy).

I know of another U.S. Ambassador who was involved with Central American narco-traffickers (Clinton appointee) and yet one more who was involved in money-laundering (also a Clinton appointee). The involvement of these Ambassadors in crime was not rumor but substantiated fact - and also a fact that while the knowledge of their crimes was "common", each had/has powerful friends in high places. I'm still overseas and currently at the U.S. embassy in Mexico City... nothing has changed under our current president. (But then I didn't expect any changes.)

24 posted on 3/8/02 2:27 PM Pacific by waxhaw

Check out this Freepers' profile on FR . He is in Mexico and is a strong,courageous Christian.

[OKCSubmariner]

BUMP

Please See replies #15, #16.

[Lion's Cub]

I'll go find that thread, but your #17 substantiates my point that people in Washington had to know. The FBI was there. The military was there. Even if everything in writing DID have to go through the counsulate, I don't believe that good people kept everything to themselves when they got back to their own turf or to Washington. It's utterly unbelievable to me that none of this was reported to Washington, even if it had to be done by 1-on-1s, going up the chain of command--or even outside of it.

The real questions in my mind are why wasn't the information acted on, and who is really in control?

[zog]

--can't tell ya who's in control, tell ya who ain't, and that's the doods we elect. They are allowed some fun and leeway near as you can see, after that, I think they get either told what to do or faked out into doing it.