They're Coming After You

Worldnetdaily/Creators Syndicate, Inc. | 3-6-02 | Walter Williams

[Hoosier Patriot]

Oh oh! You've been snared just like I was. I have it on good authority that it was sarcasm.

[Hoosier Patriot]

Are you kidding?

Yes.

Or.... am..... I???

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAA!

[Gabz]

I assert that government does have a role in stopping you from doing harmful things to me...your beer example ---- you can drink all you want but the government has the right to say you can only drink so much before you drive because you are a danger to others...

You are right - the government does have the right to determine how much you can drink and then drive. But your reasons are wrong.

The government has the right to set limits on alcohol and driving because driving on public roads is a privelege, not a right. You must earn the privelege to drive. And to retain the privelege you must abide by certain rules.

However, if I own a couple thousand acres and choose to get rip roaring drunk and drive on that land - the government has no say in the matter. It's my private property. If in doing so I injure someone - there are laws involving assault to deal with that. There are also laws dealing with trespass. If I didn't invite you on my land and you get hurt you have no one to blame but yourself for being somewhere you shouldn't be.

By entering a restaurant you are entering into a contract with the proprietor of your own free will.

[metesky]

Boo hoo hoo!

[Gabz]

I am aware the owner has many restrictions on him - and you seem to be willing to add to the burden.

Food handling in the kitchen has absolutely nothing to do with smoking. That argument does not hold water. Nor does your comment on exclusion by race.

Your avocation of government control of the atmosphere of a private place of business totally befuddles me. If you don't like the smoking policy, talk to the owner, not the government.

[metesky]

I don't smoke, don't abuse alcohol, don't use drugs, wear my seatbelt, and wear my helmet while riding my motorcycle. I exercise 4-5 times a week, and have a low-fat, low-sodium diet. I make these choices for myself for MY OWN GOOD. I don't need some government pinhead legislating common sense to me.

I smoke, drink like a freepin' swine, smoke weed like thre's no tomorrow, never wear a GD seatbelt, don't ride anymore (no time; I'm always drunk or high). My idea of excersise is going down to the fridge to get another libation, eat red meat three times a day, slathering it all with as much salt as I can. I make these choices for my own good (What works for my 95 year old father works for me). I don't need some government pinhead legislating common sense to me.

How come if you and I, coming from the opposite side of the spectrum, can see it, so many are blind?

[Gabz]

Are we to legislate for every damn what if?

I'm seriously wondering why some of these people are posting on FR - what about you????

[metesky]

Jack, if you missed two days of work because some one across the room from you smoked, you better not reproduce 'cause you're bringing down the gene pool, BIG TIME!

[metesky]

That's pitiful. And very weak.

[metesky]

....nobdy gets to make other people sick just for their good time...Isn't that what you're doing to us?

I'm sueing. Stay right there til my lawyer gets here.

[Madame Dufarge]

in your world what is the role of government?

In my world, it's to protect private property rights.

That way, when someone owns a restaurant and snivelers such as yourself enter, he would be free to ask you to leave so that other patrons could enjoy a whine-free dining-out experience.

That seems fair to me.

[metesky]

Your position ignores simple premises of things like private property rights and personal responsibility.

Not to mention that Miss Manners would be horrified at such boorish behavior.

[Gabz]

ask any minority group they'll tell you that they have the right to make the majority do what they want.

I see where you are coming from - but smokers are a minority. And we are not asking to "smoke everywhere." We just want the proprietors of private establishments to make their own determination whether they will accomodate smoking or not.

[Gabz]

Remember, it may be smoking today - tomorrow it may be your little pet vice, then lets see how loud you squeal.

I notice reflecting has been responding very much---------------HMMMMMMMMMM

[Gabz]

This will be outawed someday too. I've started hanging out in the garage with my cigar. I suppose someone will whine about that too.

They tried it in Montgomery County, Maryland.

[Gabz]

LOL!!!!!!!!

I like the way you think.