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Anti-abortion prayer upsets senators
The Gazette ^ | 3/6/02 | AP

Posted on 03/06/2002 5:05:16 AM PST by frossca

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

DENVER - About six lawmakers walked out during the morning Senate prayer Tuesday after a Greeley pastor gave an invocation they characterized as offensive.

Sen. Dave Owen, R-Greeley, who invited the pastor, later apologized to fellow lawmakers for remarks the pastor made that he said were inappropriate.

Both legislative houses start each day with a prayer that is supposed to be nondenominational and nonpolitical.

On Tuesday, the Rev. David Meek of Glad Tidings Church prayed for God's help in overturning Roe v. Wade, the Supreme Court ruling that made abortion legal in the United States.


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Epps said she walked out because of remarks that were belittling to women.

Does that include the 50%+ of the babies killed that are female?

1 posted on 03/06/2002 5:05:16 AM PST by frossca
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Apparently, no spokesman for the unborn children the pastor sought to save were available for comment.
2 posted on 03/06/2002 5:19:57 AM PST by Mr. Lucky
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Looks like the pastor struck a nerve with a few of these people.

It's not a lecture unless you are guilty. It's tough supporting the murder of the defenseless.

3 posted on 03/06/2002 5:23:10 AM PST by Pylot
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"I pray, Lord, help this great state of Colorado to be a leader, to be a real leader, Lord Jesus, and Lord, even to reverse the Roe versus Wade so we can stop the killing and murder of the innocent little babies," he told the senators.
Among those who walked out were Sens. Mary Ellen Epps, R-Colorado Springs; Bob Hagedorn, D-Aurora; Stephanie Takis, D-Commerce City; and Penfield Tate, D-Denver.
"I don't think it's appropriate for someone to lecture us on Roe versus Wade in a prayer," Hagedorn said.

Where was the lecture? I missed it.

4 posted on 03/06/2002 5:23:12 AM PST by ImaGraftedBranch
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"Screw the babies. What about my delicate ears?"
5 posted on 03/06/2002 5:24:33 AM PST by AppyPappy
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To: frossca
I wish that every state legislature had a pastor like Rev. David Meek. I e-mailed the story to my pastor, who is afraid of speaking up against abortion in the church.

Thank you for the post. It is a great way to begin the day.

6 posted on 03/06/2002 5:26:44 AM PST by Former Fetus
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"I don't think it's appropriate for someone to lecture us on Roe versus Wade in a prayer," Hagedorn said.

Anyone else see the irony in this complaint?

7 posted on 03/06/2002 5:31:19 AM PST by workerbee
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Yes,

Apparently morality has no place in politics or prayer. sarcasm

8 posted on 03/06/2002 5:38:55 AM PST by Heartlander
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To: frossca
Anyone from Colorado, correct me if I am wrong...isn't Colorado the only state which allows abortions up to 34 weeks?
9 posted on 03/06/2002 5:42:44 AM PST by grellis
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"Anyone else see the irony in this complaint?"

It's jaw dropping.

(Nice to see you around again, Workerbee)

10 posted on 03/06/2002 5:47:51 AM PST by Artist
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To: BibChr
Ping.
11 posted on 03/06/2002 5:48:57 AM PST by Artist
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Sen. Dave Owen, R-Greeley, who invited the pastor, later apologized to fellow lawmakers for remarks the pastor made that he said were inappropriate.

I wish Owen hadn't apologized. As a matter of fact, I don't understand why he apologized. It's not like the pastor is his minor child, whose actions the Senator is responsible for. The pastor was acting like a mature adult who stands up for his own beliefs.

I also hope more prayers for the unborn are spoken outloud in the presence of the Senators.
The words can't hurt them as much as abortion hurts the child in the womb.

12 posted on 03/06/2002 5:52:39 AM PST by syriacus
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I still don't understand why it was all right for women to speak out for "abortion rights" but it is not all right for people to speak out against abortion.

Anti-abortion laws were the "law of the land (states)" before 1970, and "abortion rights" are the "law of the land" now. The "law of the land" argument didn't stop pro-abortionists from speaking back in the 60's, so they have no right to use that argument to silence pro-lifers.

13 posted on 03/06/2002 6:00:31 AM PST by syriacus
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I am so glad I got out of Colorado. While it is overwhelmingly a Republican voting state, morality seems to have little to do with it. The urban areas in Colorado, which accounts for a large portion of the state's population, are overrun with flaming liberals and "Celebrate Diversity" is by far the most common bumper sticker displayed throughout the state. Thankfully, I have not seen a single one in the state of Arkansas. I worked with a woman there who took the day off one day to take her sister for a very late term abortion and she had the attitude that there was "no choice" because the baby had spina bifida. There is also a tenacious and vocal contingent of pro-life activists and the despicable legislation that has squeaked through has been challenged and will continue to be challenged every step of the way, so there is hope.
14 posted on 03/06/2002 6:01:43 AM PST by sweetliberty
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"I pray, Lord, help this great state of Colorado to be a leader, to be a real leader, Lord Jesus, and Lord, even to reverse the Roe versus Wade so we can stop the killing and murder of the innocent little babies," he told the senators.

LOL! He didn't 'tell the senators!' He told GOD! The senators just listened in.

15 posted on 03/06/2002 6:12:00 AM PST by LibertyGirl77
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Does that include the 50%+ of the babies killed that are female?

How can half of them be female if they're just a glob of cells? < /sarcasm>

16 posted on 03/06/2002 6:17:17 AM PST by al_c
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"I don't think it's appropriate for someone to lecture us on Roe versus Wade in a prayer" Hagedorn said.

Of course you didn't, the liberal, reprobate condition of your mindset is one that doesn't want to be confronted with your evil, and be convicted of the abomination of infanticide. In your politically correct wharpedness, it's rude to confront you with your evil, but right to murder unborn babies.
You sir, and all like you are sick.

17 posted on 03/06/2002 6:22:46 AM PST by Isaiah_66_2
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Gutless wonders.

Apparently, being in DC turns one into a fool. Look, you simpletons, here's an example:

I eat beef and wear leather. It's part of who I am. And I don't particularly care that umpteen eleventy cows die per day. It's what's for dinner, you dig? Part of my culture, part of what makes my life easier and better (inexpensive food and good boots) comes right out of the slaughterhouse. That's ME, leather and beef man. I am what I am, and I accept it.

Now you, you hypocrites. You build your power on the crushed bodies of thirty-five-plus MILLION aborted babies. You picked your road, now WALK IT. Does it make you uncomfortable? Too bad. You have offered blood sacrifice for political power.

The power is now yours. The blood is yours as well. Live with it.

18 posted on 03/06/2002 6:28:46 AM PST by Mr. Thorne
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And to Rev. David Meek of Glad Tidings Church, I would say:

Dave, my fellow servant of the Lord, it is not you they reject, it is not your words they reject, it is the God of Life, the Lord Jesus they reject.

For, it is not a choice, it is a baby!


19 posted on 03/06/2002 6:30:03 AM PST by Alas
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To: grellis
I may not be correct on this, but, I think Maine has no restrictions based upon time, health, viability or anything.

Again, I'm not sure, but I seem to remember reading that somewhere.

20 posted on 03/06/2002 6:34:47 AM PST by Alas
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