Posted on 03/05/2002 2:00:27 PM PST by vannrox
He is far less favored by groups with more tolerent traditions like those in the Maghreb, Turks in Turkey and in the Trans-Eurasian Steppe.
If you believe in the garbage that the rapist, murder, lier wrote then it you are an enemy.Kiss my hairy ass. Where did you learn to spell? Homeschooled?
The rider on the White Horse is given a crown and a bow and goes out conquering and to conquer. He sets the stage for the other three horsemen of the apocalypse who bring war, famine, disease and death.
Salladin and Mohammed were conquerors to promote Islam and the Koran which clearly and openly calls for the destruction of Jews and Christians.
Have the Arabs and Saudis and extreme Islamics given Bin Laden a crown and a bow and put him on a white horse in the name of their false version of peace to go out conquering for Isalm? Or will they find another rider for their white horse to do the job for them if Bin Laden fails?
Many Iranian and Egyptian and Saudi clerics and mullahs and political leaders and Bin Laden keep promoting violence against Christians and Jews to promote Islam. They say they are freedom fighters and are justified by Allah to be violent to bring in a peaceful Islam to rule the world. They say they will be peaceful when they achiecve domination. They are deceiving and being deceived.
They would not be satisfied with just taking over Israel and having the US leave the ME region. The extreme Islamics want to conquer all Christians, all Jews everywhere and dominate the entire world for Islam. And they will use deceptive peaceful and violent means at the same time to achieve their goals.
Beware of a rider on a White Horse who Arab Islamic extremists will promote and claim to be a champion of Islam while he goes out to destroy and conquer Christians and Jews using violence in the name of Islam's false claim of peace.
Hmmmm. Maybe we should invite Abdallah to "visit" his co-religionists at Camp X-Ray?
"Oh, the shackles? Merely for your own protection, Minister."
My apologies as one who is first cousin to some snake handlers. There's a lot of it around these days. I wish some Turkish Korean War vets would post here.
Koran which clearly and openly calls for the destruction of Jews and Christians.You are so mistaken! The Koran calls for the protection of them. Arrrgh! These bastards like Usame were successful after all. They managed to get you ignorant asses all worked up! Cool heads will prevail, so prevail.
"Koran which clearly and openly calls for the destruction of Jews and Christians."
If your version of the Koran does not say this, it must have some pages missing from the original.
Actually the Koran calls for the destruction of Jews and Christians if they fail to convert after being given three chances. If they convert, they will not be physically destroyed, but then they will no longer be Christians or practice Judaism either -their faith will be destroyed.
If they do not convert after the third chance , Christians and Jews are to be violated, their property taken and they are to be killed according to the Koran.
But I am glad that not all Muslims follow every word in all pages of the Koran.
God and Jesus CHrist have love for Muslims. Christians who trully follow Christ's teachings and commandments do not try and kill or persecute Muslims.
Praise be to God the Father for the gift of His Son, Jesus Christ, the Prince of Peace.
Muslims and Christians alike can have eternal life if they believe on Jesus Christ as the Son of God and as God's gift to cover their sins with Christ's blood if they believe and repent.
If your version of the Koran does not say this, it must have some pages missing from the original.You have the original then? LOL!
What does the Quran have to say on the matter of violence with respect to Islam?
"Those who follow Muhammad are merciless for the unbelievers but kind to each other." (48:29)
"Enmity and hatred will reign between us until ye believe in Allah alone." (60:4)
"Make war on them until idolatory does not exist any longer and Allah's religion reigns universally." (8:39) (2:193)
"Fight the unbelievers in your surroundings, and let them find harshness in you." (9:123)
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them, capture and besiege them and prepare for them every kind of ambush." (9:5)
Is this simply referring to muslim apostates or pagans???
"And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are perverted!" (9.30)
Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium [Mary - "Jesus is the messiah"]; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust. Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve. (5:71-73)
And there is allot more in the Hadith. What I said is true by the words in the books that you read and believe in.
MCD
Dont think so, they are dead, you know, at peace.
In all seriousness, Saudi Arabia IS Mecca, the Holy land of Islam. When a Saudi Official makes a statement that Osama Bin Laudin is righton about Islam it is a decree, not an opinion, you can not go any higher. So now it is official, The Moderate Moslems are apostates, The Radical Islamics are not Radical, they ARE Islam.
"Those who follow Muhammad are merciless for the unbelievers but kind to each other." (48:29)The following refers to what we consider a mistake: Turning God in to a human, suggesting that God had sex with Mary, etc. Note that it's up to God to destroy them and not me:
"Enmity and hatred will reign between us until ye believe in Allah alone." (60:4)
"Make war on them until idolatory does not exist any longer and Allah's religion reigns universally." (8:39) (2:193)
"Fight the unbelievers in your surroundings, and let them find harshness in you." (9:123)
"Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them, capture and besiege them and prepare for them every kind of ambush." (9:5)
"And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are perverted!" (9.30)Note that the Messiah is not shunned but praised in the following passage, but the idea of God and Mary having had a baby together, and the idea that God is divisible is criticized:
Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah, He is the Messiah, son of Marium [Mary - "Jesus is the messiah"]; and the Messiah said: O Children of Israel! serve Allah, my Lord and your Lord. Surely whoever associates (others) with Allah, then Allah has forbidden to him the garden, and his abode is the fire; and there shall be no helpers for the unjust. Certainly they disbelieve who say: Surely Allah is the third (person) of the three; and there is no god but the one God, and if they desist not from what they say, a painful chastisement shall befall those among them who disbelieve. (5:71-73)All of which boils down to: 1)Show no mercy to those who persecute you, and try to extinguish you and your family, and 2)God is so extremely immense and all encompassing an entity that it is beyond God to have sex with humans and have children, and anyone who thinks that is reverting back to the older previous religions where God has a human form.
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