Man shot in face by FBI in serious condition

Baltimore Sun ^ | March 3, 2002 | Kimberly A.C. Wilson

[Donald Stone]

An Eagle Scout who was mistaken for a bank robber and shot in the face by an FBI agent in Pasadena on Friday remained in serious but stable condition at Maryland Shock Trauma Center last night.

Joseph Charles Schultz, 20, was shot at close range about 6 p.m. Friday when FBI agents searching for a bank robbery suspect pulled over his girlfriend's car.

Schultz, who lives in the 7900 block of Seabreeze Drive in Orchard Beach in Anne Arundel County and works with fiber optics for a local medical company, has no connection to the bank robbery, officials said.

[Don Myers]

"And that comment has been shown true. "

Many local police forces have developed ninja mentalities, and the Federal police agencies have shown that they consider themselves above the law. Many people have eyes to see what has happened in this country. Others do not have that sight.

[meadsjn]

Squeeze, Baby, Squeeze

[Don Myers]

Well, the Patriot Act gives them the power to use military forces. These people really will virtually shoot if you make a sudden move. They are not police forces, but they will be used that way.

[Lloyd227]

"I commented about those who paint with a broad brush and will use any unfortunate situation to further their political point of view. "

and I'm one of those who paint with a VERY broad brush... for example, when I see any law enforcement officer (ANY) intentionally disrespect or refuse to follow ANY law, I question whether we have bestowed the responsibility for enforcement on the right person. Set the big stuff aside and think for a moment what it looks like to be traveling exactly the speed limit on the freeway and regularly have state patrol cars pull out and pass me travelling at least 20 mph more than myself.

I know we're talking about serious situations with a shooting of what was apparently the wrong person here, but I bring it back to basics. If a man (or woman) does not hold the utmost respect for EVERY law on the books then that individual has no right to be attempting to enforce ANY law on the books. I know this is a very broad brush but it's how I believe.

Further, I personally believe that a very high percentage of law enforcement officers from every level, local, state and federal fall into this category.

Somewhere along the way nearly all of them developed the belief that they are above the law. This is a very sad situation and there is no making excuses for a federal agent shooting an unarmed kid. Accidental or otherwise, this man should be punished the same as a civilian would be under the same circumstances.

Contrary to the beliefs of many cops and agents on the job, You are NOT special and you deserve no special treatment If you don't like that attitude then get out of the business.

[AAABEST]

"Didn't take long for you to stir what I consider two of the most notorious American haters on this site from their caves."

Nice try. Many of us "Amercia Haters" were on this forum loving America long before your statist self showed up and declared us un-American because we haven't sewn our lips to the current president's ass as you have.

America hater? That's quite a charge. I fought a war while you were probably sitting at home picking your f**king a-hole while making insulting comments at people that disagree with you.

Bite me scrub-boy.

[Dane]

Many local police forces have developed ninja mentalities, and the Federal police agencies have shown that they consider themselves above the law. Many people have eyes to see what has happened in this country. Others do not have that sight

Whatever Don, no one is stopping you from posting your, IMHO, hyperbolic comments.

[Don Myers]

"With 5% of the world's population and 25% of its prison inmates, we'd better be comfortable with it."

The presence of a large number of criminals in a nation doesn't make it a police state. It just makes it a country with a lot of criminals.

[Don Myers]

"Whatever Don, no one is stopping you from posting your, IMHO, hyperbolic comments."

And no one is censoring yours. We still have the first amendment, at least some of it is left. That doesn't mean the noose is not tightening.

[Donald Stone]

If the FBI agent was from the Annapolis,MD. FBI field office his supervisor would be(so-called) Special Agent In Charge is Dave Midura.

My personal opinion of Dave Midura,is that he is not only incompetent,but also corrupt,(my opinion based on my personal dealings with Dave Midura)

If the agent that was involved in this shooting was from the FBI main office in Baltimore, MD. the head of the FBI in Baltimore and the State of Maryland is a Liz Hunt.

[Don Myers]

Letting criminals run loose was done in The Wild, Wild West. Decent citizens soon found that they needed Law and Order.

[Donald Stone]

BUMP !!!!!

[Twodees]

It's absolutely outrageous for our employees to withhold any information whatsoever about this. They are answerable to us. The DoJ under Clinton was this bad, but people need to realize that this has always been the way the FBI operates, from its earliest beginnings. This is not something that only occurs when a democrat is in office.

Under Nixon, the FBI ran almost totally out of control, arming and training banana republic style death squads on indian reservations. These people have finally come to the point that they aren't even pretending to be an investgative agency anymore. Investigators don't wear black Nomex from head to toe, with black covered Kevlar and ceramic body armor and carry the same weapons issued to Special Forces. Secret Police like the Tontons Macoutes do that.

It's past time that we warn our self proclaimed "leaders" in elected office that this has to stop. We had better stand up, altogether, and demand that this sort of thing cease immediately, or we'll be unable to do so pretty soon.

[Dane]

Contrary to the beliefs of many cops and agents on the job, You are NOT special and you deserve no special treatment If you don't like that attitude then get out of the business.

Uh I am not in the business.

Just making my observations known about people like you(at least you are honest) who paint with a broad brush.

[Twodees]

I swear to God, boy. You're sick as a dog.

[Twodees]

[blame the public]

Yeah, I knew that someone would say this soon enough. Blame the rape victim for wearing a short skirt. Blame the robbery victim for carrying cash.

This is being done to us, not by us. I guess you think that everyone is at fault for what the criminal politicians who win rigged elections do just because a percentage of us voted in the election. Wake up, Unc. These people have no fear of us or of our votes.

[Twodees]

I think that it would take having a jury award the young man an amount equal to the entire federal budget to even get the attention of Congress. Once their attention was attracted to the award, they would immediately begin working on passage of some truly meaningful tort reform.

/sarcasm