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Posted on 03/02/2002 2:22:33 PM PST by VinnyTex

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To: VinnyTex
Aquinas and Augustine were my top two. Interesting.
182 posted on 03/02/2002 6:55:45 PM PST by SpookBrat
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To: VinnyTex

Your Results:


1.  Mill   (100%)  Click here for info
2.  Rand   (83%)  Click here for info
3.  Kant   (82%)  Click here for info
4.  Sartre   (74%)  Click here for info
5.  Epicureans   (70%)  Click here for info
6.  Prescriptivism   (69%)  Click here for info
7.  Bentham   (65%)  Click here for info
8.  Aquinas   (57%)  Click here for info
9.  Ockham   (45%)  Click here for info
10.  Aristotle   (40%)  Click here for info
11.  Augustine   (40%)  Click here for info
12.  Noddings   (40%)  Click here for info
13.  Cynics   (38%)  Click here for info
14.  Hobbes   (38%)  Click here for info
15.  Plato   (37%)  Click here for info
16.  Nietzsche   (35%)  Click here for info
17.  Hume   (30%)  Click here for info
18.  Spinoza   (30%)  Click here for info
19.  Stoics   (22%)  Click here for info

Interesting that second place is only 83%, and only 3 above 75%... most other lists here have quite a few above the 70's.

183 posted on 03/02/2002 6:59:14 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: McGavin999
Thanks, I have that bookmarked it for later.
184 posted on 03/02/2002 7:02:44 PM PST by StriperSniper
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To: egomeimihi

Your Results Page

# 1 Liberal
# 2 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton)
# 3 Liberal Nationalist
# 4 American "Conservative"
# 5 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher)
# 6 Social-Liberal
# 7 American "Liberal"
# 8 Burkean (liberal) Conservative
# 9 Social Democratic
# 10 National Socialist
# 11 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right)
# 12 Soviet "Communist"
# 13 Fascist
# 14 Christian Democratic
# 15 Marxist
# 16 Anarcho-Communist
# 17 Liberal Socialist
# 18 Christian Socialist

I tried to go as far right as possible. I think it's an odd test... and look at the possible results... Thatcher is a neo-liberal?!?

185 posted on 03/02/2002 7:08:18 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: McGavin999
John Stuart Mill was the son of James Mill, a well-known Utilitarian. John S. rebelled against his father and went to the other "extreme" if you will, fighting FOR liberty in the face of tyranny of the majority. Utilitarianism seeks to bring about the the most pleasure (pleasure=good in this case) for the greatest number of people. This would naturally result in the tyranny of the majority.

Hope this helps, I can do more if you would like. Actually, Mill is a good read and On Liberty is not that long.

186 posted on 03/02/2002 7:13:46 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
Thanks diotima, I found "On Liberty" and posted a link to it for other people who have Mills at the top of their list.
187 posted on 03/02/2002 7:16:03 PM PST by McGavin999
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To: diotima
1. Aquinas (100%)
2. Sartre (100%)
3. Ockham (96%)
4. Kant (94%)
5. Augustine (81%)
6. Mill (77%)
7. Spinoza (74%)
8. Prescriptivism (71%)
9. Bentham (66%)
10. Aristotle (64%)
11. Rand (57%)
12. Epicureans (52%)
13. Nietzsche (45%)
14. Hume (42%)
15. Stoics (38%)
16. Plato (33%)
17. Hobbes (15%)
18. Noddings (13%)
19. Cynics (6%)

Now if I can only figure out what this all means!

188 posted on 03/02/2002 7:17:18 PM PST by mtngrl@vrwc
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Aristotle 100%

Mill 99%

Rand 92%

Aquinas 85%

Bentham 82%

189 posted on 03/02/2002 7:18:13 PM PST by SKempis
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To: rwfromkansas
Liberal in the classical sense meant something much different than it does now. Mill is a liberal as John Locke is a liberal.

The catagorization of liberal arose in relation to what Locke was fighting against, namely the divine right of kings.

The liberalism of Lock and Mill would be characterized on the contemporary political stage as extremely right wing, with very limited interference from the government on the individual.

190 posted on 03/02/2002 7:18:33 PM PST by diotima
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To: VinnyTex
1. Mill (100%)
2. Kant (89%)
3. Bentham (77%)
4. Aquinas (72%)
5. Prescriptivism (70%)
6. Plato (68%)
7. Rand (67%)
8. Sartre (66%)
9. Aristotle (62%)
10. Ockham (59%)
11. Augustine (58%)
12. Epicureans (46%)
13. Hume (32%)
14. Spinoza (29%)
15. Stoics (28%)
16. Nietzsche (14%)
17. Cynics (11%)
18. Hobbes (11%)
19. Noddings (11%)
191 posted on 03/02/2002 7:22:48 PM PST by TX Bluebonnet
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To: StriperSniper
It does but there is a problem with the test. Many of the thinkers share major philosophical conclusions. So it would be unusual to be able to test for the difference between say Augustine/Plato and Aquinas/Aristotle. These pairs are very similiar on the big issues.

There are certain areas where there is overlap in one regard but not in others. Kant and Rand do have some similarity in regards to a certain kind of "objectivism" but in some other areas they are radically different. Since the test is vague about what areas they are actually comparing and what elements they are considering the results are ambiguous.

Personally the feminazi philosopher of education on the list really shouldn't be anyone's "100%" and I would be a little surprised at anyone with a "100%" Spinoza rating.

192 posted on 03/02/2002 7:24:01 PM PST by diotima
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To: egomeimihi
Just for fun I answered 'yes' to everything and got a much more 'right-wing' list of results... that includes yes to national health-care, yes all crime is society's fault, yes to nationalizing major industries, yes to cencorship, yes Constitutional Republics are inherently unjust, yes Labour and capital should work together to plan the economy, yes the Soviet structure is more moral than America's, yes it is immoral for people to be unequal economically...

THAT'S fascist/anti-liberal according to the quiz?!?! THAT'S almost as far from Clinton as possible?!?! ROFL

#1 Fascist # 2 Revolutionary Conservative/Monarchist (far right) ; # 3 Christian Socialist ; # 4 National Socialist ; # 5 Soviet "Communist" ; # 6 Liberal Nationalist ; # 7 American "Conservative" ; # 8 Burkean (liberal) Conservative ; # 9 Christian Democratic ; # 10 Marxist ; # 11 Anarcho-Communist ; # 12 Liberal Socialist ; # 13 Right-wing Neoliberal (Thatcher) ; # 14 American "Liberal" ; # 15 Social Democratic ; # 16 Social-Liberal ; # 17 Left-wing Neoliberal (Clinton) ; # 18 Liberal ;

It's the test-maker.... waaaaaaaaay off.

193 posted on 03/02/2002 7:26:06 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: diotima
John Stuart Mill was the son of James Mill, a well-known Utilitarian. John S. rebelled against his father and went to the other "extreme" if you will, fighting FOR liberty in the face of tyranny of the majority. Utilitarianism seeks to bring about the the most pleasure (pleasure=good in this case) for the greatest number of people. This would naturally result in the tyranny of the majority.

Not really. Mill was born and bred to Utilitarianism by his father, and never "rebelled" against it - on the contrary, he wholeheartedly embraced it. He followed directly in the footsteps of Jeremy Bentham in formulating the inductive philosophy of Utilitarianism, as opposed to what he considered to be Kant's "intuitive" approach to moral theory.

"On Liberty" is a very good work, and well worth reading, but you might also have a look at J.S. Mills's "Utilitarianism" also.

194 posted on 03/02/2002 7:27:46 PM PST by general_re
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To: McGavin999
Thanks for the link... I'll read it in the morning!

(Mill 100%)

195 posted on 03/02/2002 7:27:48 PM PST by Teacher317
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To: diotima
Thanks, good to know I am on the right track.

the feminazi philosopher

If you mean Noddings, I was had noticed that name came up awful low on most.;-)

196 posted on 03/02/2002 7:41:41 PM PST by StriperSniper
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To: general_re
I will admit that "rebelled" is a harsh word, however Mill certainly did more than just embrace the Benthamite concept of "Utilitarianism." The doctrine that a dissatisfied Socrates is not only better than a satisfied fool, but somehow happier, too, introduced the idea of quality over quantity into "Utilitarianism."
197 posted on 03/02/2002 7:50:57 PM PST by diotima
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To: diotima
Oh, I don't mean to imply that Mill was a slavish Benthamite, either - just that Bentham provided the foundation, the springboard from which Mill jumped. As for the "quality versus quantity", I agree - that's how Mill could consistently embrace a Utilitarian viewpoint while at the same time argue that liberty was itself the greatest of all "pleasures".
198 posted on 03/02/2002 7:59:02 PM PST by general_re
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To: VinnyTex
1.  Aristotle   (100%)
2.  Aquinas   (96%)
3.  Augustine   (74%)
4.  Bentham   (68%)
5.  Plato   (68%)
6.  Rand   (68%)
7.  Mill   (66%)
8.  Spinoza   (61%)
9.  Epicureans   (60%)
10.  Hume   (53%)
11.  Cynics   (49%)
12.  Kant   (47%)
13.  Sartre   (43%)
14.  Ockham   (41%)
15.  Stoics   (41%)
16.  Nietzsche   (40%)
17.  Prescriptivism   (33%)
18.  Hobbes   (27%)
19.  Noddings   (21%)

199 posted on 03/02/2002 8:41:29 PM PST by beckett
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To: VinnyTex
1. Aquinas (100%) Click here for info

2. Ockham (93%) Click here for info

3. Augustine (91%) Click here for info

4. Mill (84%) Click here for info

5. Spinoza (84%) Click here for info

6. Epicureans (79%) Click here for info 7. Bentham (73%) Click here for info 8. Rand (72%) Click here for info 9. Cynics (71%) Click here for info 10. Sartre (69%) Click here for info 11. Kant (67%) Click here for info 12. Plato (64%) Click here for info 13. Prescriptivism (61%) Click here for info 14. Aristotle (56%) Click here for info 15. Hobbes (52%) Click here for info 16. Stoics (48%) Click here for info 17. Nietzsche (37%) Click here for info 18. Noddings (37%) Click here for info 19. Hume (23%) Click here for info

200 posted on 03/02/2002 9:03:09 PM PST by GOPJ
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