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FBI agent stops wrong car, shoots driver in face
Baltimore Sun ^ | March 2,2002 | Tom Pelton

Posted on 03/02/2002 1:20:32 PM PST by Donald Stone

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

FBI agents searching for an armed bank robber pulled over the wrong car last night on Fort Smallwood Road in Pasadena and shot a man in the face who had no connection to the crime, authorities said.

The 27-year-old victim, whose name was not released, was flown by helicopter to Maryland Shock Trauma Center and is expected to live.

"Anytime anyone gets shot, whether it's the right or wrong person -- we are traumatized by it as well," said FBI spokesman Peter Gulotta. "This is not something that we like to see happen. The circumstances will be thoroughly investigated."


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To: Askel5
Thanks. I'm not suprised. So much for the Free State.
101 posted on 03/02/2002 4:27:41 PM PST by nunya bidness
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To: Donald Stone

"Anytime anyone gets shot, whether it's the right or wrong person -- we are traumatized by it as well," said FBI spokesman Peter Gulotta.

BS! If they were traumatized what the heck do the describe the sate of their innocent victime as being? ...Crucified, grossly tortured -- what?

102 posted on 03/02/2002 4:32:47 PM PST by Zon
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To: rbmillerjr
We will probably never know what really happened,and personally I wouldn't believe anything the FBI would say concerning this matter.

In south Florida a couple of allegedly drunk off-duty FBI agents were driving in the wrong lane on I-95 and killed two brothers.

The FBI agents simply lied about the accident and even posted an FBI agent at the hospital to keep other law enforcement agencies (FL. Highway Patrol)from investigating.

Eventually the truth was discovered and the FL. Governor and the FL. Highway Patrol apologized to the family of the dead brothers for the mistaken accident report.

Whether the FBI ever apologized for the conduct of their agents in this matter, I don't know.

103 posted on 03/02/2002 4:37:49 PM PST by Donald Stone
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To: CommiesOut
"Anytime anyone gets shot, whether it's the right or wrong person -- we are traumatized
by it as well," said FBI spokesman Peter "Drips" Gu lotta.

--- --- --- --- ---
I'm glad these guys don't carry grenades. ... They don't, do they?

CommiesOut has pointed the way, "Better safe than sorry."

(CO, I'm feelin' just a little bit traumatized by the
felicity with which these clowns seem to have
discovered a way to be both safe and sorry.)

"Kill us all and let Gaia sort us out."

104 posted on 03/02/2002 4:39:18 PM PST by notease
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To: jrewingjr
That's terribly insulting to Arkansas.
105 posted on 03/02/2002 4:44:41 PM PST by muawiyah
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To: Donald Stone
The circumstances will be thoroughly investigated...and the agents in question will be totally exonerated, of course.
106 posted on 03/02/2002 4:47:14 PM PST by Pistias
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To: Pistias
The circumstances will be thoroughly investigated...and the agents in question will be totally exonerated, of course.

It sure helps to be able to do your own investigation, to have your own in-house arson investigators and "friendly" coroners on the payroll.

107 posted on 03/02/2002 4:52:19 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Donald Stone
This trigger happy special agent sounds like a natural to join this team:

"The Raid: New Fiction from the War on Domestic Terrorism"

108 posted on 03/02/2002 4:55:28 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Pistias
If it was a case of a cell phone or wallet threat, one would expect the driver to have been shot dead, not winged. It will probably be ruled an accident, the agent slapped on the wrist and sent to a desk job for a few months, the driver made a new multimillionaire with an undisclosed settlement, and all will be forgotten.
109 posted on 03/02/2002 4:56:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Donald Stone; Joe Montana; aristeides; Gary Aldrich; sneakypete
Thank heavens the victim is alive. If he had perished, I'm sure the standard lies would have been reported, plus a drop down pistol would have been deposited on the floorboard of the victim's car. Thank goodness he's alive.
111 posted on 03/02/2002 5:05:41 PM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Donald Stone
Actually, if only one shot was fired, more than likely it was an accident. When done deliberately, it usually involves a lot of shooting.
112 posted on 03/02/2002 5:06:00 PM PST by OldEagle
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To: Fred Mertz
Read "passengers/witnesses"
113 posted on 03/02/2002 5:13:02 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck
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To: Donald Stone
re: Florida case,... "Eventually the truth was discovered"

Yeah same thing for the cop in the NY plunger sodomy case. He was in prison for 3 yrs and wasnt even in the same room. So these things can break both ways.

I live in Maryland and since the wussy libs run the legislature and courts......we have lots of criminals, I thank God for the law enforcement officers we have - the thankless job (as proven here) that it is.

114 posted on 03/02/2002 5:38:18 PM PST by rbmillerjr
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To: Travis McGee
If the gun had been a pistol instead of an M-4, he probably would have missed.
115 posted on 03/02/2002 5:50:46 PM PST by CWRWinger
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To: Donald Stone
"I have the evidence and know the agents by name, in addition to the fact that two other business people would be more than willing to testify against certain of these FBI agents in a court of law."

So how do you know the guy in the car didn't say the same thing? Be careful there, it's not like the FBI is going to investigate the FBI. Any agency which might hear your grievance would be under the DOJ as well.

116 posted on 03/02/2002 5:51:47 PM PST by Justa
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To: InkStone
>>>So... is it time to roll ?<<<

Please! You cowards have enough trouble rolling your arses off the couch during commercial break.

117 posted on 03/02/2002 6:00:41 PM PST by Archaeus
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To: OldEagle
"Actually, if only one shot was fired, more than likely it was an accident. When done deliberately, it usually involves a lot of shooting."

Excellent point! Having shot both the M-4 and the P-226 and H&K USP I can attest to the fact that the stock trigger pull of the M-4 (M-16A2) is noticibly shorter and less than either pistol. Imo he should have had it on Safe or had his finger outside of the trigger guard.

I can imagine it would take some training to walk, aim and have one's finger on the trigger with the selector on Semi and not have the gun go off. If he was wearing gloves it would be even more difficult. The only way I can imagine it could be done well would be to have the finger pressed forward on the trigger guard. That's not SOP though.

He shouldn't have had his weapon on Semi or his finger should have been outside the trigger guard. Those are likely the SOP. So he likely F-d up regardless. Walking with his finger on the trigger and the selector on Semi with an M-4/M-16A2 is just reckless. It's gonna go off.

118 posted on 03/02/2002 6:03:38 PM PST by Justa
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To: Archaeus
Time will tell.
119 posted on 03/02/2002 6:08:25 PM PST by Travis McGee
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To: Cap'n Crunch
Bad shooting bump.
120 posted on 03/02/2002 6:10:37 PM PST by Travis McGee
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