To: Aric2000
I may be somewhat bitter about what the butchering Turks have done to so many over so many years but I have nothing to apologize for in America. You, on the other hand, are an apologist for the true savages of the world and all because of your hatred for Christians.
As for your ignorance about the Crusades... I suggested to you a look at the history of the Muslim invasions including that of the Ottoman Turks and the response by the west - the Christians. You won't do it though because you are blinded by your hatred of anything Christian. Anything you write therefore is marked by your ignorance.
93 posted on
03/02/2002 4:38:50 PM PST by
eleni121
To: eleni121
Let's go over this ONE more time shall we, because you just aren't getting it, or DO NOT want to get it, which shows me what a bigot and hypocrite you are.
And I was born and raised a christian you arrogant twit, I have NO animosity towards the Christian faith at all.
Let's go over the crusades one more time, I have studied the crusades, thoroughly, I took a class on them in College, have you?
In one of the first crusades, the region in france known as the Languaduc, spelling is probably wrong, was one of the MOST advanced in Europe, art, literature, literacy, government. It was one of Europes MOST advanced cultures, but they would NOT recognize the pope's authority. The Pope therefore declared a crusade against them. One of his knights came to the pope with a question, he asked how the crusaders would tell the difference between a Christian and a heretic, the pope said " Kill them all, to the last man, woman, and child, god will claim his own."
The crusaders went into that region and killed every last man, woman and child, burned down the entire region and took everything of value. They burned the books, the art, every bit of knowledge that these people had, and put over 250,000 people to the sword in a little over a week. Then, just to make sure that ANY survivors would die, they salted the fields, so that crops WOULD NOT grow and they would starve.
This sounds civilized doesn't it?
Over a 200 year period the crusades sent out by the popes killed over 5 million people, 5 million, and probably more.
Now then, on to the "crusade against the Ottomans" as you like to think of it, but in fact it was NEVER considered a crusade. Here let me give you some info.
From the sixteenth century European policy was swayed exclusively by state interests; hence to statesmen the idea of a crusade seemed antiquated. Egypt and Jerusalem having been conquered by Sultan Selim, in 1517, Pope Leo X made a supreme effort to re-establish the peace essential to the organization of a crusade. The King of France and Emperor Charles V promised their co-operation; the King of Portugal was to besiege Constantinople with 300 ships, and the pope himself was to conduct the expedition. Just at this time trouble broke out between Francis I and Charles V; these plans therefore failed completely. The leaders of the Reformation were unfavourable to the crusade, and Luther declared that it was a sin to make war upon the Turks because God had made them His instruments in punishing the sins of His people. Therefore, although the idea of the crusade was not wholly lost sight of, it took a new form and adapted itself to the new conditions.
It was NEVER a true crusade, so check your history and try again...
Your arrogance, hyposcrisy, and bigotry, know NO bounds.
If the Turks are answerable to the actions of thier ancestors the Ottomans, then so are the christians for the crusades, and so is the US for the indians and slavery.
If the Turks are answerable, then in order NOT to be a hypocrite, you MUST admit the christians are answerable and the US is answerable. YOU HAVE TO, or you are indeed arrogant, bigoted, and hypocritical.
Go ahead, squirm out of that one, go ahead. If you try, then you are indeed just what I think you are.
94 posted on
03/02/2002 5:39:05 PM PST by
Aric2000
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