Posted on 03/01/2002 7:36:24 AM PST by FresnoDA
Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]
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Neglect is NOT the same thing as murder. There are even people here saying they thing the father was selling the daughter to strangers,as well as being guilty of her murder. I ain't buying it,and neither should you without some actual evidence or signs of police suspiscion.
An 11 hour absence is inexcusable.
No one was left alone for 11 hours. The father was present in the home the entire time. Assumption is she was taken while he was asleep before Brenda came home, or after she returned and they had gone back to bed.
I know you know and understand this,but let's make it plain anyway. There is NO SUCH THING AS CONSENSUAL SEX WITH A CHILD! It is ALWAYS child rape!
What is it with you people? Chandra Levy was murdered, almost certainly by the pervert Gary Condit, or by one of his henchmen. Monica Lewinsky would have been murdered by the pervert William Jefferson Blythe Clinton, or by one of his henchmen, except that Linda Tripp had the foresight to record their conversations and give those recordings to Kenneth Starr. Danielle Van Dam was murdered by the pervert David Westerfield, or by one of his henchmen, who might very well have been the Van Dams themselves.
Why are we arguing the nature, or quality, of murdered-ness? All of these females are, or would have been, murdered by perverts.
Your premise is that no leader can be child molesters because leftists want to sow distrust ?
Looks more like grief mixed with guilt, to me...
If the 2 parents are in fact criminally negligent, they should be indicted, IMO. (not holding my breath, though)
I agree. It not only makes me mad,it depresses the hell out of me.
I don't know the status of the case lately as he hasn't shared. I most certainly have a bias in such matters as I have kicked CPS out of my home and helped another family to shrug off their interference.
I think CPS is evil and believe that the government should never be allowed the power to tell us how we can raise our children. There is one caveat and that is when parents commit criminal acts against their children in which case it should fall under the jurisdiction of the police. The mere suspicion that a parent *might* abuse their child is not sufficient for any government agency including the police to step in and disrupt a family.
What planet are you from?
I think that if they did not wish a plea agreement, none would be made.
This just proves you are incapable of rational thought. The DA is the one who makes this decision,NOT the family.
Let's wait and see if one is arranged.
Yeah,that would be nice.
Children can sleep very hard, I can pretty much move mine around at will, once they are out. Even when I try to wake them up to make them walk so I don't have to carry them, it's pretty hard to wake them into much more than a hypnotic dream state.
Let's add one more thing to your comment and then ask you a question.....let's say that Mrs. VD danced or turned Westerfield down for a requested dance the night her daughter disappeared.....do you still think her mother had no effect on the "events" of the evening? With their fancy garage, my guess is Westerfield knew exactly what went on in that garage.
I think or possibly believe Mrs. VD's grief may be real, but not for the reason some child loving parents might think....Mrs. VD may be living a personal hell for having turned down Westerfield's request to dance or for ignoring all the warning signals (flashing lights) of that night.
I don't think the final chapter is written on this thing yet!
You're wasting your breath. There isn't even any evidence of the slanderous charges they're making about the Van Dam's lifestyle.
ROFLMAO! This is like Karl Marx calling somebody a statist!
However cold, crude that sounds, yes, the girl paid for the sins of the parents. That's the thing about sin....it leads to consequences, and sometimes those consequences affect others, especially our loved ones. When a crack/addict mother gives birth to an addicted baby, and that baby dies, that poor baby has paid the price for its mother's sin of being a drug addict. It's not like GOD is purposely allowing innocents to pay the price for others' sins, it's just that within the human race, we all have "free will" to choose whatever we want. Sometimes we choose wrongly and thus must suffer the consequences of our actions...sometimes our loved ones suffer them also.
What you have to realize is that these people just ain't going to be happy if anybody BUT the parents are arrested for this. The parents are said to be having sex with people they aren't married to,and these people just aren't going to rest until they are punished for it.
To quote Carville,"it's all about sex!". This is the SAME crowd that allowed Bubba-1 to escape prosecution for treason and other REAL crimes because they insisted he be charged for getting a blow job and lying about it. Carville used the quote above on national tv,and enough people saw the truth of it that they never bothered to check out the other charges.
Thank you. For a moment I thought you had gone completely off the deep end.
You need to change your screen name to "sick willard". First off,Danielle could NOT consent to having sex with ANYBODY. She was a child,and children can NOT consent! It is ALWAYS child rape. ALWAYS.
You seem to agree that what happened to Danielle is terrible, yet you think that swinging is okay, and that the parents lifestyle is not in any way responsible for endangering or the death of their child.
You keep defending swinging and the open relationship lifestyle.
Please be honest with us as to why. I suspect you are a swinger yourself.
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