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‘It Isn’t Over Yet’:SDPD Chief Bejarano talks about latest developments in van Dam Case
Newsweek-Website ^ | March 1, 2002 | NEWSWEEK WEB EXCLUSIVE

Posted on 03/01/2002 7:36:24 AM PST by FresnoDA

Edited on 09/03/2002 4:50:01 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]


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To: Illbay
Interesting. So a man whose child is senselessly murdered by his wife bears responsibility for those deaths because he is a "nutcase" fundamentalist Christian.

But any reasonable consideration that the sick, twisted, perverse lifestyle of the van Dams might mean they may have played a role in their daughter's death--that's just outrageous!

Think about it. A man's relationship with his wife is sufficiently intimate that he should be familiar with her emotional problems and know what she is capable of. And since Christian marriage is allegedly superior, since Christ is a partner in the marriage, the responsibility is even greater.

Yates was living with this woman (the perp). Praying with her. She was with the kids nearly all of the time. And the Van Dams are criticized because they brought Westerfield into the house once, and he may have danced with the wife in a bar on the night in question.

121 posted on 03/01/2002 8:56:51 AM PST by Cu Roi
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To: Travis McGee
Sure, getting stoned with 4 strangers locked in the garage all night

Can you support that claim with evidence, witness/participant interviews, media reports or any other material that does not come from anonymous internet chat or Rick Robert's radio talk show of 2-8-02?

Please provide links if so. I challenge all Freepers to do more than rely on rumor and single source journalism for information.

122 posted on 03/01/2002 8:57:28 AM PST by Valpal1
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To: Travis McGee
I also think that Feldman will put the VD's lifestyle on the stand. And accuse them, actually.
123 posted on 03/01/2002 8:57:30 AM PST by I_Love_My_Husband
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To: FresnoDA
Broadcast Reports are stating that Feldman and SD District Attorney are meeting to discuss possible Plea Arrangement!!!!........

I'm going to be REALLY pissed if this happens! The ONLY excuse I can think of at this point to justify something like that would be if he were to confess to murdering other children still listed as missing,and show the cops where the bodies are. I wouldn't be real thrilled about it even then,but I can understand the comfort this would give the parents of these missing children.

124 posted on 03/01/2002 8:58:25 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: GSWarrior
Re: Faking grief.

Brenda turns it on and off like a light.

I am here in San Diego and have seen many of her stand up press statements. She is like a "20-20" producer, putting the cameras here, testing mikes, all business, (we see all this on live TV), then when she gets to "her statement" about missing Danielle it's all BOOO HOOO, then she talks in the next sentence about a non-sad topic like where the searchers are meeting, and she switches like a light back to all business, no tears. Sorry, it is NOT real.

Unless she has the most amazing on-off switch for her grief.

125 posted on 03/01/2002 8:58:54 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: VRWC_minion
But my question was "is it the same thing?"
126 posted on 03/01/2002 8:59:08 AM PST by Illbay
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To: alisasny
I am sorry but I really dont feel good about condemning the parents at this point.

What we should be condemning is their actions and no one can tell me that their swinging lifestyle didn't contribute to this. Parents who are so concerned with themselves and their own lust's fulfillment, that they don't even go and check on their children when their reported orgy was over and they found the security system breached, are parents who have some real culpability.

May this be a wakeup call to anyone else who thinks they can put parts of their lives into separate boxes and not have all affected. I'd add that their 'prayers' and their church attendance after this is particularly nauseating. Possibly another part of the public relations firm's strategy.

127 posted on 03/01/2002 8:59:46 AM PST by Mahone
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To: FresnoDA
If the father went to bed, got up at 2:30 and joined the party, there MUST have at least been drugs and/or swinging involved. Why would he get up at that time of night to eat pizza? Whether she brought coke heads or swingers into the house that night, it was negligent.
128 posted on 03/01/2002 8:59:54 AM PST by demsux
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To: Travis McGee;Jodi
Trust me, it's not 10% of what is being said every hour on talk radio in San Diego.

If the VDs are not swingers, they are going to OWN several radio stations for libel and slander when this is over.

But they deny nothing, nothing, they just evade and hide behind PR flacks.

NOW THAT IS FOR SURE!!

KFMB has ran this on their website since day one.....if the VD's had half an attorney, they would have....

1.    Shut down that page.

2.    Have filed a slander suit against KFMB and Roberts.

Click here if you have not read, it is amazing......in and alleged sort of way..

The comments of Rick Roberts source
(a high placed law enforcement official)
are in bold type.
Additional information from
other sources (press, etc.) are in italics.

129 posted on 03/01/2002 9:00:36 AM PST by FresnoDA
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To: golitely
Let me put it another way. If you don't like the thread, why did you click on it? There are lots of other threads.

At what point did I say I didn't like the thread. I said I didn't like some of the posts in the thread.

130 posted on 03/01/2002 9:00:56 AM PST by dsb
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To: Travis McGee
THANKS!! Travis, for telling it like it went down.

There was another thread on here, and many posters were calling this position "sick"..but you have it 100% right.

In every one of the pix, you see, in the husband, the eyes of the cold, calculating professional gambler, world class chess master, or the movie director's idea of the quintessential gunfighter in the middle of the street at 1159:57. It is not the "thousand yard stare" of which both of us are familiar,nor is it grief. It's just cold. You can almost hear the wheels spinning on the calculation "we got this far, what's our next move". The wife doesn't have the scene quite right yet, so vacillates between the "crocodile tears", and the "dazed and confused" persona. I see no real depth to either. Flame away if you want, posters, but they act like they are following a script, and frankly, this one won't win any Oscars.

Keep the Faith for Freedom

MAY GOD BLESS AND PROTECT THIS HONORABLE REPUBLIC FROM THE CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGER BOTH WITHIN, AND OUTSIDE HER BORDERS.

Greg

131 posted on 03/01/2002 9:00:57 AM PST by gwmoore
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To: golitely
Mrs. VD lied about dancing with Westerfield.

Has this been established? The bartender says he does not recall her dancing at all...

132 posted on 03/01/2002 9:01:37 AM PST by Cu Roi
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To: Uni-Poster
If he was involved with the swinging, or with Brenda somehow, then the lifestyle DID have something to do with it.

No,this is just your beliefs based on your religious biases/views. You want them "punished" for having sex.

All I ask for is the truth.

I don't believe this. Not unless it happens to be a truth you agree with.

133 posted on 03/01/2002 9:01:51 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Travis McGee
I am here in San Diego and have seen many of her stand up press statements

Yep !!!! The more we see, the less sincere she appears.

Brenda turns it on and off like a light

It sort of reminds me of Clinton after the Ron Brown service.....tears to laughter in the literal blink of a eye.

134 posted on 03/01/2002 9:02:23 AM PST by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Illbay
Keep waiting. You've ratted out your own sister to the government. I really don't think you have room to talk.
135 posted on 03/01/2002 9:02:35 AM PST by Demidog
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To: Cu Roi
I hate when someone uses logical fallacies. I especially hate it when logical fallacies are used to trash anyone. I really despise it when its done to Christians.

Further, many people here, (including christians) think Mr. Yates is responsible for negligence since day 1.

But go ahead, find a reason to bash Christians just to make yourself feel good. Whatever floats your boat.

136 posted on 03/01/2002 9:04:50 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: craigoethe
There are local talk hosts in San Diego who have built up 100% trust over a long period, non hysterical good guys like Rick Roberts. They have oceans of credibility here.

If they say that pissed off bitter cops are leaking these swinger stories to them because they are sick of the Van Damm's "we're just like you, this could happen to anyone" line, well those "rumors" have a LOT of credibility.

Much more than the VDs, with their "on and off grief switch", who have NEVER denied the "rumors".

You have to be here in San Diego to absorb it all, you folks only catching the national feeds are only seeing the best-acted ten second BOOO HOOOOs by Brenda VD. We are seeing her other cold faces as well.

137 posted on 03/01/2002 9:04:57 AM PST by Travis McGee
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To: demsux
Might be interesting to know if they recognize anyone in the child porn that DW had

This could very well be the reason for the discussion. It COULD be that he is willing to identify the source for the child porn he had,and it is even possible the police have discovered some missing children appearing in these movies.While I really want to see this guy fry,I could get a HUGE smile out of thinking ALL the child porn producers and fellow child molestors he knows end up in prison with him.

138 posted on 03/01/2002 9:05:09 AM PST by sneakypete
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To: Travis McGee
I have to admit that I get the same sick feeling when I see the parents expresss themselves as I did from seeing Susan Smith(from day one)make her story up on the "kidnapping" of her children. This whole event even on the surface just does not pass the smell test.
139 posted on 03/01/2002 9:06:17 AM PST by PLOM...NOT!
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To: grlfrnd
Your post #113 is one of the best summations, excellent, even sneakypete will be speechless.!!! BUMP!! FDA
140 posted on 03/01/2002 9:06:27 AM PST by FresnoDA
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