Posted on 02/28/2002 7:36:19 AM PST by Dallas
MOORE HAVEN, Fla. (Reuters) - Acting on a tip that a Florida family was keeping a child's casket in their living room, police discovered a 53-year-old man living on an isolated farm with his sister as a couple and their 13 children and grandchildren, authorities said on Wednesday.
No charges were filed against the pair for digging up the remains because the statute of limitations had run out but police filed a single charge of incest against the man. He was being held Wednesday at the Glades County Jail on $150,000 bond.
Holley said the sister had not yet been charged in the ongoing investigation into one of the most bizarre incidents in memory in rural Glades County, a citrus-growing area bordering Florida's Lake Okeechobee.
"Some of our norms are defined by law. Some people don't agree with the norms and they live outside the law," Holley said. "Our main concern was for the welfare of the children."
Investigators believe the 13 children were delivered and schooled at home. They described the house as orderly and the children as disciplined.
"You have to wonder. Didn't they know this wouldn't work out?" Holley said.
But I think such persuasion can and should come from community, and not state. I don't think government is the answer to this problem though. Clearly it didn't work here (even though the law already existed).
Though the law didn't work here, the rarity of such a circumstance indicates that the law has worked in the vast majority of situations of similar potential.
I don't think it's correct to call the libertarian viewpoint morally relative. Many libs view any action that harms others as morally wrong. Now, you can argue about what acts fall under the definition of "harming others," but that doesn't deny the basic fact that libs recognize absolute wrongs -- they just don't define the universe of absolute wrongs as broadly as you might.
There are other libertarians that view a *lot* of things as morally wrong...but still don't believe that government intervention is the right way to address them. There are more nuances to the lib position than you may think.
C'mon.... think.
Do you think the majority of people don't have children with their sister because it is against the law?
I'm My Own Grandpa ( Lonzo & Oscar )
It sounds funny, I know, But it really is so, Oh, I'm my own grandpa.
I'm my own grandpa. I'm my own grandpa. It sounds funny, I know, But it really is so, Oh, I'm my own grandpa.
Now many, many years ago, when I was twenty-three, I was married to a widow who was pretty as could be. This widow had a grown-up daughter who had hair of red. My father fell in love with her, and soon they, too, were wed.
This made my dad my son-in-law and changed my very life, My daughter was my mother, cause she was my father's wife. To complicate the matter, even though it brought me joy, I soon became the father of a bouncing baby boy.
My little baby then became a brother-in-law to Dad, And so became my uncle, though it made me very sad. For if he was my uncle, then that also made him brother Of the widow's grown-up daughter, who, of course, was my stepmother.
Father's wife then had a son who kept him on the run, And he became my grandchild, for he was my daughter's son. My wife is now my mother's mother, and it makes me blue, Because, although she is my wife, she's my grandmother, too.
Now if my wife is my grandmother, then I'm her grandchild, And everytime I think of it, it nearly drives me wild, For now I have become the strangest case you ever saw As husband of my grandmother, I am my own grandpa!
I'm my own grandpa. I'm my own grandpa. It sounds funny, I know, but it really is so, Oh, I'm my own grandpa.
Do you think the majority of people don't have children with their sister because it is against the law?
I believe that, without the law, there would be MORE progeny born to brothers/sisters or other close relatives.
I believe that, without the law, there would be MORE progeny born to brothers/sisters or other close relatives.
This is getting silly. -- There is no 'the law'. [my underline]
There are probably 50 different incest laws in the US, & who knows how many hundred more around the world. -- Every culture ever known is said to have had taboos against it.
Such law is just the result of the general moral revulsion, not a hoped for cure.
-- Thus, in a free republic, the victimless types of incest are best dealt with by ostracism, -- both because it's the constitutional way, & because attempts to control victimless crime eventually create authoritarian states, as we are seeing demonstrated so well in the WOD's.
More likely in West Virginia.
I am NOT making this up.
LOL!!! How appropriate!!!
It's sick out there and just getting sicker (who said that?)
We've got areas like this in Kentucky. Unfortunately, I think the problem over and above being redneck and isolated is complete lack of education. I've been around people in remote areas of the state who are actually scary!! And believe me, the one-tooth phenomenon is no joke!
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