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Human and fly studies . . . stress ongoing role of natural selection
University of Chicago news release ^ | February 27, 2002 | John Easton

Posted on 02/27/2002 1:34:30 PM PST by Nebullis

Human and fly studies tally good and bad mutations,
stress ongoing role of natural selection

Researchers from the University of Chicago have demonstrated that natural selection plays a much larger role in molecular evolution than anyone suspected. Their report, published in the February 28 issue of Nature, shows that about 25 percent of genes are evolving rapidly in response to competitive pressures. A second paper in the same issue confirms this discovery.

Although these papers focus on fruit flies, a previous report from the Chicago authors found a similar role for positive and negative selection on the human genome. Data from the previous study (Genetics July 2001) allowed them to estimate the number of fixed "good" mutations, which distinguish humans from monkeys, and the number of residual "bad" mutations, genetic flaws that have piled up in the genome and are slowly being eliminated.

These papers directly conflict with the "neutral theory," which has dominated genetic research since the 1960s. According to the neutral theory, many small genetic changes randomly occur, but the vast majority simply don't matter. Fewer than one percent make enough of a difference that they are either embraced or expunged by natural selection.

"For several decades, the neutral theory has dominated thinking about evolution, but we haven't had the technology to test it," said Chung-I Wu, Ph.D., professor and chairman of ecology and evolution the University of Chicago and director of the study. "Now we are finding that, contrary to this accepted theory, Darwinian forces play a dominant role."

To measure the importance of selection at the genetic level, Wu and his former graduate students Justin Fay, Ph.D., and Gerald Wyckoff, Ph.D., tallied the minute variations within each of 45 genes among flies of one species (Drosophila melanogaster) and contrasted them with the same genes from a different species (Drosophila simulans).

They found that competitive pressures were shaping about one out of four genes. Thirty-four of the 45 genes, or about 75 percent, showed no sign of natural selection. But, 11 genes, or about 25 percent showed evidence of ongoing rapid evolution. These genes contribute disproportionately to the total number of changes, says Wu.

Most of these genes, note the authors, are involved in processes such as disease resistance or sexual reproduction, areas where there is "continually room for improvement."

By studying variation within human genes and comparing them with genes from old-world monkeys, Wu's team has found that the survival of the fittest is just as active in humans.

By comparing variation within the human genome and divergence from our ape ancestors, the researchers determined that about 35 percent of the accumulated changes were "good."

"The proportion is shockingly high," said Wu, "for someone like myself who grew up in the neutralist era." It means one advantageous substitution has entered the human genome every two centuries since humans separated from monkeys 30 million years ago.

"Humans are getting better," Wu added, "but nobody is perfect." Thirty to 40 percent of amino acid changes in human populations, the researchers report, are in fact slightly deleterious. They estimate that the average human carries about 500 harmful mutations, which are destined to be removed from the population by natural selection, but "transiently pile up before their exit."

The assembly of fruit flies, the Nature paper shows, is no less shoddy.

These papers do not mean the end of the neutral theory, cautions Wu. But evolutionary geneticists familiar with the work expect these to be the first of a long string of papers that will rigorously test the theory and determine how much of existing genetic variation matters in the competition for survival.

The neutral theory, proposed by geneticist Motoo Kimura in 1968, was initially controversial but slowly gained near-gospel status. Before the advent of modern genetics, people studied evolution by looking at observable differences -- such as variation in the shape of a bird's beak -- with a clear fitness value. In the 60s, researchers realized that underneath the few obvious differences between related species there were millions of DNA variations, far too many for natural selection to sort out.

So Kimura developed a mathematical framework to explain how evolution worked at the genetic level. He argued that the great bulk of DNA changes were neutral, biologically insignificant consequences of random mutation, and seldom if ever driven by natural selection.

"It was a simple, elegant, beautiful theory," said Wu, "a nice, clean hypothesis that enabled us to make and test predictions based on statistical probabilities. But we are now reminded that biology is by nature very messy, a historical process that generates variety and accumulates multiple tiny aberrations to cope with changing environments."

"These papers tell us how imperfect our genomes really are," said Wu. "At the same time, they tell us how much improvement we have constantly been making, all by means of natural selection."


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To: OBAFGKM
As regards to your #16, please see my #19 to darby. I think that the two of you make essentially the same point, so I should have included you on my response to him.
21 posted on 02/27/2002 4:54:57 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Nebullis
The forces of Darwin on the march; Neutrality trembles!
22 posted on 02/27/2002 4:59:03 PM PST by jennyp
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To: Ahban
Reading over that old thread, there was no there there, as I tried to explain at the time. Did you know male and female studies show substantially different last-common-ancestor dates? (I forget just now which one is later and what the difference is.)

You were citing chimp versus human genetic diversity as some kind of anomaly in the evidence picture for human evolution. It isn't. I realize that your version handles it, too. Your version handles everything.

23 posted on 02/27/2002 5:28:33 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: longshadow
Thanks for the bump.
24 posted on 02/27/2002 5:30:15 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: VadeRetro
Did you know male and female studies show substantially different last-common-ancestor dates? (I forget just now which one is later and what the difference is.)

Actually I was aware of that. The age of the oldest common male ancestor is much more recent than the age of the most common female ancestor. And, as you say, my side is always ready with some kind of explanation....

This is just what one would expect to find if the last common ancestor of all living women, Eve, lived many generations before the last common ancestor of all males, Noah. Recall that all men to survive in the ark were directly related, while the four women in the Ark were not related. It would therefore not be suprising for males to have less diversity than females in gene regions unique to each sex.

PS- The Deluge of Noah would also explain the 'genetic bottleneck' you mentioned earlier.

To all, Vade does not seem to think the thread I linked to in my earlier post has much of value to say. I am afraid I must politely disagree. It was an excellent run down on the genetic evidence for the date of human origins. But don't take my word for it, click on the link yourselves and see who YOU think makes the best case.

25 posted on 02/27/2002 6:35:08 PM PST by Ahban
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To: Ahban
This is just what one would expect to find if the last common ancestor of all living women, Eve, lived many generations before the last common ancestor of all males, Noah. Recall that all men to survive in the ark were directly related, while the four women in the Ark were not related. It would therefore not be suprising for males to have less diversity than females in gene regions unique to each sex.

PS- The Deluge of Noah would also explain the 'genetic bottleneck' you mentioned earlier.

I was talking more about the completely bullet-proof generic "Goddidit" approach, not Biblical literalism. I'm surprised you're trying to make the Noahic Flood work. That takes you out of the realm of bad biology into execrable geology. And how many generations are there from Eve to Noah?

To all, Vade does not seem to think the thread I linked to in my earlier post has much of value to say. I am afraid I must politely disagree. It was an excellent run down on the genetic evidence for the date of human origins. But don't take my word for it, click on the link yourselves and see who YOU think makes the best case.
Let me know what you hear.
26 posted on 02/28/2002 8:30:38 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: Nebullis
In what way is "survival of the fittest" Darwinian?
27 posted on 02/28/2002 8:44:41 AM PST by cornelis
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To: Jeremy_Bentham
You're not really added - you just do a search for "to:crevo_list" from the main page. Or click below...

Don't forget to visit the Crevo List for all the latest!

28 posted on 02/28/2002 11:01:44 AM PST by cracker
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To: PatrickHenry
More blasphemy from Satan's laboratory!

I suspect these results are contaminated. It is well known that the U of Chicago was the site of early atomic research. That research is still ongoing under the bleachers, and the escaping radiation from the atomic pile has corrupted the observed rate of mutation.

29 posted on 02/28/2002 11:05:39 AM PST by cracker
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To: Jeremy_Bentham
Search to:"crevo_list" to find the latest additions to this topic.
30 posted on 02/28/2002 11:39:11 AM PST by Nebullis
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To: Junior
Doesn't matter how old the quote is - it's still true. They haven't come up with anything but a fruit fly. Call me when they get a fruit fly to mutate into something else.
31 posted on 02/28/2002 11:41:44 AM PST by MEGoody
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To: cornelis
In what way is "survival of the fittest" Darwinian?

Colloquially.

32 posted on 02/28/2002 11:47:54 AM PST by Nebullis
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To: Nebullis
By studying variation within human genes and comparing them with genes from old-world monkeys, Wu's team has found that the survival of the fittest is just as active in humans....

It means one advantageous substitution has entered the human genome every two centuries since humans separated from monkeys 30 million years ago.

As reported, this seems to reflect a few assumptions on the part of Mr. Wu, chief among which is that survival of the fittest apparently does not apply to the old world monkeys to which he's comparing us.

33 posted on 02/28/2002 12:00:11 PM PST by r9etb
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To: MEGoody
Doesn't matter how old the quote is - it's still true.

Sure it does. Do you want a quote from Newton when discussing quantum mechanics? Or one from Hippocrates when discussing brain surgery? Of course not. Yet you seem to think dredging up ancient quotes in a biology discussion seems to have some magical cache not enjoyed by other disciplines.

34 posted on 02/28/2002 12:12:17 PM PST by Junior
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To: Junior
cache = cachet.
35 posted on 02/28/2002 12:14:01 PM PST by Junior
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To: Junior, Nebullis
Drosophila melanogaster = darwinian forces
36 posted on 02/28/2002 12:21:59 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis
You must mean EVIL Darwinian forces.
37 posted on 02/28/2002 12:35:23 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: Nebullis
You mean to say this is an ethics thread, colloquially?
38 posted on 02/28/2002 12:37:18 PM PST by cornelis
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To: cornelis
Many try to make it that. I don't think we know enough science to make statements about ethics.
39 posted on 02/28/2002 12:50:23 PM PST by Nebullis
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To: Nebullis
"Fittest" is a Darwinian superlative, which is a colloquialism to mean, we know too little about ethics to make statements in science, right?
40 posted on 02/28/2002 12:52:27 PM PST by cornelis
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