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U.S to Send Special Forces into the Former SovietRepublic of Georgia(Hunting Al Qeada)
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Posted on 02/26/2002 3:11:04 PM PST by Dog

Bret Bair just reported on Fox News that the U.S. will be sending 100 to 200 Special Forces troops into Georgia before the week is out..


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To: codebreaker
I have no doubt that Schevardzne is open and willing to US troops assistance and that this is happening. He is in over his head dealing with the chechen scum who have been terrorizing the Pankisi Gorge for quite some time now. Just recently 4 Georgian soldiers were taken hostage - let's see how long before their head removal videos hit the islamic market...
In the past year many Orthodox monks in Georgia have been kidnapped and some have been beheaded.
21 posted on 02/26/2002 3:34:31 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Dog
You know... Comrade Stalin was a Georgian. And our troops - American, capitalist troops - are going to be roaming his old stomping grounds. Maybe one or two of them will get the chance to pee on his grave while they make the world safe for Western democracy and free enterprise.

I love this country.

22 posted on 02/26/2002 3:35:52 PM PST by kezekiel
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To: MarMema
"On Monday Georgian President Eduard Shevardnadze expressed surprise by the recent statement made by the Russian Minister of the Interior (head of federal police) Igor Ivanov, who last Friday in Paris admitted that there is a possibility of Osama ben Laden being present at the Pankissi Gorge. On Monday during the press conference the Georgian President ironically explained the position of Igor Ivanov. The thing is that Mr.Ivanov himself is originally from Akhmet district, where his mother still owns a house.

Maybe ben Laden is hiding in that house. That has to be checked out. Even if the house belongs to the Minister of the Interior, - the head of the Georgian government said. According to him, long before this statement Georgia had taken appropriate measures towards the stabilization in the Pankissi Gorge. For instance, he reminded about the checkpoints that the Internal Guard Troops had set up. Georgia is not considering the possibility of conducting a joint military operation with Russia in the Pankissi Gorge, because it is not permissible, - the President stressed. According to him, even though Georgia is not a strong state military-wise, it is strong enough to put things in order on its own territory.

Eduard Shevardnadze had also expressed his readiness to conduct a dialog with the US special services in case it's necessary. These problems are not currently considered on a systematic basis, he said while commenting on the recent statements by the acting US Ambassador to Georgia Philip Remler about a possible presence of Afghan Mujahideen in Pankissi.

Meanwhile the Chairman of Georgian Parliamentary Committee of Defense and Security, Georgy Baramidze, does not rule out that the US and other NATO members may conduct some sort of an anti-terrorist «micro-operation» on Georgian territory. During his interview with a number of Georgian mass media Baramidze said that such kinds of military operations will be conducted all around the world, and in that case Georgia is not an exception. But the operations will of course not be of such a large scale as they were in Afghanistan, - the parliamentary had said.

According to him, the Georgian government is acknowledging the presence of serious problems in the Pankissi Gorge. It is preferable of course, if Georgia could solve these problems on its own. However, here we cannot do without the technical, financial and other kinds of support of the US and other NATO members, - Georgy Baramidze believes.

He also noted that the Georgian side will not mind if special counter-terrorist units of the Western states will join in to solve the «Pankissi problem». The NATO involvement in bringing order to the Pankissi Gorge would be quite acceptable for Georgia, - Baramidze had said. At the same time, he strongly ruled out that Tbilisi (Georgian capital) should agree to let the Russian side conduct any sort of a military operation in the region. The parliamentary mentioned that the Pankissi Gorge problem did not just appear out of the blue, but is a result of the ongoing war in Chechnya.

Ever since the Second Russian-Chechen war started, back in 1999, over 7,000 Chechen refugees fled to Georgia. And the majority of them have found refuge in the villages of the Pankissi Gorge.

Department of Strategic Information, «Kavkaz-Center»
2002-02-19 11:53:20

23 posted on 02/26/2002 3:36:31 PM PST by MarMema
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24 posted on 02/26/2002 3:40:14 PM PST by 68-69TonkinGulfYachtClub
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To: Dog
Georgia, an Orthodox Christian country. Land of my son. A beautiful place where I have considered retiring, if I can ever convince my husband.
Georgia

I fell in love with this country many years ago while we were adopting a child from just outside of Tbilisi. They have some of the best food I have ever eaten. They have the best wine in the entire world. They are renowned for a choral technique which is not known anywhere else in the world. Their history is so old that it is impossible to ascertain where the Georgian people originally came from. It is thought that they were always there, in Georgia.

The Georgian people are known for their hospitality, friendliness, and gregarious nature. My son's strong sense of humor has it's origin in his genetics. Georgians are uniformly warm, welcoming and delightful. They also have the world record for longevity. It is not unusual for Georgians to live to be 100 years old, and this country has produced more people living to that age and beyond than any other in the world.
They speak a lovely lilting language which I studied briefly as we adopted our son. Their alphabet is a unique and very ancient script. Their people are proud and gentle, as I came to know them.

26 posted on 02/26/2002 3:47:27 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Dog
I agree..but someone had to post this ..it's big news.

That and the fact that even if Al-Queda does read the FR forums this post won't be able to prepare them for our assualt. They had better run real fast. If this report is out it means that the operation has already begun.

27 posted on 02/26/2002 3:53:59 PM PST by Mixer
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To: Dog
a nice page about Georgia here
28 posted on 02/26/2002 3:56:29 PM PST by MarMema
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To: FormerLib
A picture of my son, adopted from Georgia.


29 posted on 02/26/2002 4:00:07 PM PST by MarMema
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To: Dog
The Georgians and the Russians have never been buddies.

There is a real problem of al Queda/Chechnya Islamic Fanatics in Georgia. Apparently they have linked up with the Georgian Organized Crime guys. The villages of the Pankissi Gorge and around the villages are rumored to be over run with some really bad al Quedas.

So this is an easy way for the Georgian leaders. Get US Special Ops in to get rid of these Islamic Killers. Georgia will provide air bases and may even use their planes (we probably don't want their planes and pilots). The Russians stay out of Georgia, and we will leave when the job is done!

There must be a lot of economic gain for the al Queda's to be in Georgia working with Georgian Organized Crime. One way to kill the hydra is to kill off the various snake heads and their financial sources.

30 posted on 02/26/2002 4:01:34 PM PST by Grampa Dave
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To: Dog
Smoke 'em out and hunt 'em down. No refuge anywhere.
31 posted on 02/26/2002 4:02:07 PM PST by Hugin
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To: FormerLib,ninachka,crazykatz,the_reader_david

Nina was born in Cappadocia to a Roman citizen named Zabulon and his wife, Susanna, a deaconess and the sister of the bishop of Jerusalem. Nina was reared by a governess from Iberia (now more commonly known as Georgia). She was inspired to spend most of her life there evangelizing the people. She entered eternal life in 335. Georgia is one of the oldest Orthodox countries in the world, since St. Nina firmly established the Church there.

Troparion (Tone 3)
As minister of the word of God in apostolic preaching, you equaled Andrew the first-called and the rest of the Apostles. Enlightener of Georgia and instruments of the Holy Spirit, holy Nina, equal to the Apostles, entreat Christ God that our souls may be saved.

32 posted on 02/26/2002 4:07:15 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema
It is an open channel for the chechen scum to hide out and operate under Schevardzne, who is a big weenie at best
So you don't mind big weenies then?
33 posted on 02/26/2002 4:31:51 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: a_Turk
I suppose I was trying to be nice and not say "coward". You're very funny today.
34 posted on 02/26/2002 4:44:23 PM PST by MarMema
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To: MarMema
In times where power shifts and vacuums occur, you will have people being used as pawns. Russia is using the Abkhazians, the Ossetians, and to a lesser degree the Armenians in such a way in the Caucasian theater.. The Chechens, alone in their quest for independence, have become to some extent clients of muslim extremists. That does not make them scum. All Russians are not scum because of some of them are they?

The Georgian leader, on the other hand has not become anyones puppet and has been balancing on a tightrope for the past decade. I was impressed with him during his stint with Gorby, and still am since Georgia has not succumbed to Russian pressures. The Georgian leader is an intelligent man, who knows how to pick his friends. That is why he has given Turkey unlimited access to Georgian military airbases, and wants for Georgia to join NATO. And I don't really want to find out how big a weenie he is.
35 posted on 02/26/2002 5:01:21 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: MarMema
Nice icon of St. Nina, Equal-to-the-Apostles, Enlightener of Georgia.

Of course, my favorite Georgian saint is St. Tamara: she was the Queen of Georgia in the late 12th century, and according to the Synaxarion did much to build up the Church, worked great works of charity, was a just judge, rode into battle a the head of her army (which martial virtue seems to have aided in the conversion of some of the Muslim hill-tribes of the region to Holy Orthodoxy), and was addressed by her people as "King and Judge".

36 posted on 02/26/2002 5:03:18 PM PST by The_Reader_David
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To: a_Turk
Georgia's security boss takes own life

I don't know what to make of this.

37 posted on 02/26/2002 5:11:05 PM PST by csvset
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To: csvset
A "two bullets to the head" suicide... I tell you, those Georgians are very determined and resourceful people.
38 posted on 02/26/2002 5:18:05 PM PST by a_Turk
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To: Dog
British forces have served in quite a few of the old Soviet states since the early 90s. Theres a report by Brit special forces about an SAS unit operating in Grozny, during the siege of that town. They obtained intelligence about the Thermo-baric weapons that the Russians were using to flatten the town. It is still speculation whether or not they were there at the request of the Russian Goverment to assist against the Chechen terrorists. It appears that the result of this intelligence resulted in some changes to FIBUA SOPs, and also provided both the MI6 and CIA with part of the puzzle in identifying a network of terrorists, that we now know as Al-qaeda.

British SAS/SBS teams trained the Russian Alpha and Omon special forces teams, in there Anti-terrorist roles, and provided a boost in there morale by helping take down a large part of the Russian Mafia Hierarchy in Moscow.

I myself, have served in Romania, and are being deployed to the Ukraine this coming August. And I also know some US soldiers (serving with the Brit army) that have also served in some old Warsaw pact country's, so don't be to surprised!.

Den.

39 posted on 02/26/2002 5:44:50 PM PST by dennybabyboy-fitzy
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To: a_Turk
The Chechens, alone in their quest for independence, have become to some extent clients of muslim extremists. That does not make them scum

This may have been the case many years ago, but as it is now, the country is run by wahabi extremist scum. And Basaeyev and his ilk make no bones of their quest. You can call it independence, but he calls it an islamic state.

Coincidentally, my son was airlifted from Georgia during their civil war with Russia. Russian soldiers passing through his area left their coats and food for the children in the "orphanage" who had been left to starve in a country bereft of even electricity more than a few hours/day.
So contrast this behavior with that of the chechens, in a time of war. And what you come up with afterward, is scum.

40 posted on 02/26/2002 5:46:26 PM PST by MarMema
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