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To: CCWoody
One more question: if God has desired and been pleased to do so, could He have created a man differently, with a different set of abilities and desires so that the man would eventually submit to Him?

Would eventually submit to Him? That's irresistible grace; the doctrine you preach, isn't it? Aren't you the ones who say that God forces them to believe?

You teach that no one is ABLE to believe. You teach that God forces some to believe and he saves those. You teach that God doesn't permit the rest to believe. Then, you teach that he punishes in eternal hell those who don't do what he prevented them from being able to do. Doesn't seem fair to me.

God does not show partiality/favoritism.

You are correct. We believe differently. We believe he created everyone with the ability to make a true, real free choice. Those who choose Him, he saves. Those who reject, he damns.

Our understandings are entirely different.

173 posted on 02/27/2002 9:03:41 AM PST by xzins
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To: xzins; CCWoody
"Would eventually submit to Him? That's irresistible grace; the doctrine you preach, isn't it? Aren't you the ones who say that God forces them to believe?"

No, we don't say that God "forces" us to believe. Is that the only thing you think about when you hear "irresistable"? Not me, I see that the thing that is "irresistable" is of such a nature that I hunger and thirst after it. I found my wife to be "irresistable" and I willingly sought to have her as my wife.

Jesus has been presented to me a being "irresistable", and I have sought Him out. God wooed me and pursued me and crafted all the experiences of my life in such a way that I could no more say no to Him than I could say no to life itself. Where is the "force" here?

176 posted on 02/27/2002 9:13:18 AM PST by Jerry_M
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