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To: xzins; CCWoody
"Would eventually submit to Him? That's irresistible grace; the doctrine you preach, isn't it? Aren't you the ones who say that God forces them to believe?"

No, we don't say that God "forces" us to believe. Is that the only thing you think about when you hear "irresistable"? Not me, I see that the thing that is "irresistable" is of such a nature that I hunger and thirst after it. I found my wife to be "irresistable" and I willingly sought to have her as my wife.

Jesus has been presented to me a being "irresistable", and I have sought Him out. God wooed me and pursued me and crafted all the experiences of my life in such a way that I could no more say no to Him than I could say no to life itself. Where is the "force" here?

176 posted on 02/27/2002 9:13:18 AM PST by Jerry_M
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To: Jerry_M;xzins;CCWoody
No, we don't say that God "forces" us to believe. Is that the only thing you think about when you hear "irresistable"? Not me, I see that the thing that is "irresistable" is of such a nature that I hunger and thirst after it. I found my wife to be "irresistable" and I willingly sought to have her as my wife.

Exactly..they make it sound like God drags you kicking and screaming.I used the term wooing you and that got mocked..but the truth is it never entered my mind to want anything else...." the father draw him" do they think those are just words?

189 posted on 02/27/2002 9:43:08 AM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Jerry_M; xzins
No, we don't say that God "forces" us to believe. Is that the only thing you think about when you hear "irresistable"? Not me, I see that the thing that is "irresistable" is of such a nature that I hunger and thirst after it. I found my wife to be "irresistable" and I willingly sought to have her as my wife.

Yes, the Lord was pleased to place a longing for her in my soul. Oh, and at the risk of dropping this pearl before [lurking] swine, He told her before we had even dated that I was going to be her husband.

In the same way, the Lord placed a longing for Him in my soul.

You and I have gone over this before, Woody. Romans 2.

In way way does this gospel have the ability to save? I believe that you didn't like my assumptions from the last time you said this, so I will plainly let you speak about it.

206 posted on 02/27/2002 10:24:41 AM PST by CCWoody
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To: Jerry_M; CCWoody
Jerry: "No, we don't say that God "forces" us to believe. Is that the only thing you think about when you hear "irresistable"? Not me, I see that the thing that is "irresistable" is of such a nature that I hunger and thirst after it."

CCWoody: "Yes, the Lord was pleased to place a longing for her in my soul."

Ahhh... perhaps this is why we are having such a difficult time getting anywhere. You see, whatever you "think about" when you hear "irresistAble" is actually "irresistIble".
And if you look it up, you will find that the word does not mean merely desirable, but "impossible" to resist.

Now, maybe you will want to reconsider your statements?

353 posted on 02/27/2002 2:31:27 PM PST by SKempis
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