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To: A Navy Vet
With that in mind, how *possible* is it for those monkeys to finish the entire play? Or how possible is it for those primordial organisms to evolve into the thousands of Earth species WITHOUT design?

The million monkey theorem and bootstrapping chemistry use very different mathematics for calculating their probability. Not making this distinction is a common fallacy I see used in these arguments. In chemistry, the chemical interactions are not at all random in a mathematical sense, and if they were we wouldn't be able to produce complex chemicals reliably or in quantity. In chemistry, it is very possible to have simple chemical systems spontaneously bootstrap themselves to levels of complexity orders of magnitude greater than when they started. If chemistry was actually mathematically random, then the probability would be vanishingly small that such molecules would spontaneously assemble, never mind do it every time in quantity.

341 posted on 03/05/2002 7:28:52 AM PST by tortoise
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To: tortoise
"The million monkey theorem and bootstrapping chemistry use very different mathematics for calculating their probability. Not making this distinction is a common fallacy I see used in these arguments."

I love it! You are still in denial! This is great! You're now claiming that the MATH (which at one time you actually promised to produce yourself) is now non-applicable to the chemical data stored in DNA!

Go read Post #310. The MATH shows that DNA sequencing is NOT going to appear randomly even if 17 Billion planets work on the problem for 17 Billion years!

348 posted on 03/05/2002 9:31:31 AM PST by Southack
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