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Evolution debate: State board should reject pseudoscience
Columbus Dispatch ^ | February 17, 2002 | Editorial

Posted on 02/18/2002 4:59:53 AM PST by cracker

The Dispatch tries to verify the identity of those who submit letters to the editor, but this message presented some problems. It arrived on a postcard with no return address:

Dear Representative Linda Reidelbach: Evolution is one of my creations with which I am most pleased.

It was signed, God.

The Dispatch cannot confirm that this is a divine communication, but the newspaper does endorse the sentiment it expresses: that there is room in the world for science and religion, and the two need not be at war.

The newspaper also agrees that Reidelbach, a Republican state representative from Columbus, is among the lawmakers most in need of this revelation. She is the sponsor of House Bill 481, which says that when public schools teach evolution, they also must teach competing "theories'' about the origin of life.

Reidelbach says the bill would "encourage the presentation of scientific evidence regarding the origins of life and its diversity objectively and without religious, naturalistic or philosophic bias or assumption.''

What this appears to mean is that any idea about the origin of life would be designated, incorrectly, a scientific theory and would get equal time with the genuine scientific theory known as evolution.

Those who correctly object that the creation stories of various religions are not scientific would be guilty, in the language of this bill, "of religious, naturalistic or philosophic bias or assumption.''

Never mind that science is not a bias or an assumption but simply a rigorous and logical method for describing and explaining what is observed in nature.

What Reidelbach and her co-sponsors are attempting to do is to require that science classes also teach creationism, intelligent design and related unscientific notions about the origin of life that are derived from Christian belief.

So bent are they on getting Christianity's foot in the door of science classrooms that they apparently don't mind that this bill also appears to give the green light to the creation stories of competing religions, cults and any other manifestation of belief or unbelief. Apparently, even Satanists would have their say.

But the real problem is that Reidelbach's bill would undermine science education at the very moment when Ohio should be developing a scientifically literate generation of students who can help the state succeed in 21st-century technologies and compete economically around the globe.

The fact is that religious ideas, no matter how much they are dressed up in the language of science, are not science. And subjecting students to religious ideas in a science class simply would muddle their understanding of the scientific method and waste valuable time that ought to be used to learn genuine science.

The scientific method consists of observing the natural world and drawing conclusions about the causes of what is observed. These conclusions, or theories, are subject to testing and revision as additional facts are discovered that either bolster or undermine the conclusions and theories. Scientific truth, such as it is, is constantly evolving as new theories replace or modify old ones in the light of new facts.

Religious notions of creation work in the opposite fashion. They begin with a preconceived belief -- for example, that God created all the creatures on the Earth -- and then pick and choose among the observable facts in the natural world to find those that fit. Those that don't are ignored.

The scientific approach expands knowledge about the natural world; the religious approach impedes it.

The classic example of this occurred 369 years ago when the Catholic Church forced Galileo to recant the Copernican theory that the Earth revolves around the sun. That theory contradicted the religiously based idea that man and the Earth formed the center of God's creation. Had the church's creationist view of the solar system prevailed, Ohioan Neil Armstrong never would have set foot on the moon.

Today, Copernican theory is established and acknowledged fact.

When it comes to evolution, much confusion grows out of the understanding -- or misunderstanding -- of the words theory and fact. Evolution is a theory, but one that has become so thoroughly buttressed by physical evidence that, for all intents and purposes, it is a fact. No one outside of the willfully obstinate questions the idea that new life forms evolved from older ones, a process conclusively illustrated in biology and the fossil record.

Where disagreement still exists is over how the process of evolution occurs. Scientists argue about the mechanism by which change occurs and whether the process is gradual and constant or proceeds in fits in starts. But while they debate over how evolution occurs, they do not doubt that it does occur.

Another way to understand this is to consider gravity. Everyone accepts the existence of this force, but many questions remain about just what gravity is and how it works. That scientists argue about how gravity works doesn't change the fact that gravity exists. Or, as author Stephen Jay Gould has put it, "Einstein's theory of gravitation replaced Newton's in this century, but apples didn't suspend themselves in midair, pending the outcome.''

Just as with gravity, evolution is a fact.

Those who persist on questioning this fact are a tiny minority, even among people of faith. But they are a loud minority and, to those not well-grounded in science, their arguments can sound reasonable, even "scientific.'' But their arguments are little more than unfounded assertions dressed up in the language of science.

This minority also insists on creating conflict between religion and science where none needs to exist. Major faiths long since have reconciled themselves to a division of labor with science. Religion looks to humankind's spiritual and moral needs, while science attends to the material ones.

The Catholic Church, which once tried to hold back the progress of science, now admits that it was wrong to suppress Galileo. More than a billion Catholics draw sustenance from their faith untroubled by the knowledge that the planet is racing around the sun.

Religion, in turn, provides spiritual and moral guideposts to decide how best to use the awesome powers that science has unlocked and placed at humankind's disposal.

Nor are scientists themselves antagonistic to religion. Albert Einstein, one of the greatest scientific geniuses in history, was deeply reverent: "My comprehension of God comes from the deeply felt conviction of a superior intelligence that reveals itself in the knowable world,'' he once said.

Others have made similar observations. The more the scientific method reveals about the intricacies of the universe, the more awestruck many scientists become.

The simplest way to reconcile religion and evolution is to accept the view propounded early last century by prominent Congregationalist minister and editor Lyman Abbott, who regarded evolution as the means God uses to create and shape life.

This view eliminates conflict between evolution and religion. It allows scientists to investigate evolution as a natural process and lets people of faith give God the credit for setting that process in motion.

As for what to do about creationism and evolution in schools, the answer is easy. Evolution should be taught in science classes. Creationism and related religiously based ideas should be taught in comparative-religion, civics and history classes.

Religion was and remains central to the American identity. It has profoundly shaped American ideals and provided the basis for its highest aspirations, from the Declaration of Independence to the civil-rights movement. There is no question that religion is a vital force and a vital area of knowledge that must be included in any complete education.

But not in the science classroom, because religion is not science. There is no such thing as Buddhist chemistry, Jewish physics or Christian mathematics.

The Earth revolves around the sun regardless of the faiths of the people whom gravity carries along for the ride. Two plus two equals four whether that sum is calculated by a Muslim or a Zoroastrian.

Reidelbach and her supporters genuinely worry that a crucial element -- moral education and appreciation of religion's role in America -- is missing in education. But they will not correct that lack by injecting pseudoscience into Ohio's science curriculum.

And Reidelbach is not the only one making this mistake. Senate Bill 222, sponsored by state Sen. Jim Jordan, R-Urbana, is equally misguided. This bill would require that science standards adopted by the State Board of Education be approved by resolution in the General Assembly. This is a recipe for disaster, injecting not only religion, but also politics, into Ohio's science classes.

These two bills should be ignored by lawmakers.

In a few months, when the State Board of Education lays out the standards for science education in Ohio's public schools, it should strongly endorse the teaching of evolution and ignore the demands of those who purvey pseudoscience.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: crevolist; educationnews; evolution; ohio
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To: 1/1,000,000th%
Yes.

Kind of like another line of mine - when faced with intermediate transitional fossils (e.g., dino-bird series), the Creationist continues to ask whether pink is red or white.

21 posted on 02/19/2002 5:33:36 AM PST by cracker
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To: Junior
"We've got a whole lot of these folks on this forum...

I have looked at thousands of posts by evolutionists on this forum. I have seen people beg them for proof of macro-evolution, proof of anything supporting evolution, and they can never come up with any.

Now you and your friends will rant and scream at me for saying the above. You will insult me, you will attack my character and use other fould METHODS to try to discredit my statement but this I can assure anyone reading this post:

NOT ONE, NOT ONE EVOLUTIONIST WILL POST PROOF OF MACRO-EVOLUTION - BECAUSE THERE IS NONE. BECAUSE THERE HAS NEVER BEEN ANY PROOF OF EVOLUTION IN THE 150 YEARS SINCE THE CHARLATAN CHARLES DARWIN WROTE HIS HEATHEN BOOK.

22 posted on 02/19/2002 7:40:50 PM PST by gore3000
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To: lexcorp
"As Pakicetus and Ambulocetus show."

Oh really?

SHOW ME THE BONES!

More importantly, show me the proof of the evolution. Bones are meaningless. There are millions of species now alive. They range from one celled creatures to the most complicated of all - man. Yet in 20 years of DNA tracing the evolutionists have never been able to show a single straight line between divergent species. In fact, DNA tracing has shown most of the evolutionists assumptions about what species "evolved" from each other as total bunk.

23 posted on 02/19/2002 7:49:30 PM PST by gore3000
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To: gore3000
I have seen people beg them for proof of macro-evolution, proof of anything supporting evolution, and they can never come up with any.

So, the dozen or so speciation links on The Ultimate Resource magically disappeared before you could read them? Or did you just ignore them so that you could, in good conscience, continue to spout the inanities for which you have become infamous?

24 posted on 02/20/2002 1:59:30 AM PST by Junior
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To: Junior
So, the dozen or so speciation links on The Ultimate Resource magically disappeared before you could read them? Or did you just ignore them so that you could, in good conscience, continue to spout the inanities for which you have become infamous?

My vote is for the latter. :)

25 posted on 02/20/2002 2:20:54 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: cracker
Just as with gravity, evolution is a fact.

Just as with gravity(santa claus), evolution(Easter bunny) is a fact(real)...tooth fairy(nea) too!

26 posted on 02/20/2002 2:57:20 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Just as with gravity(santa claus)

I gather you equate the reality of gravity the same as you would Santa Claus? LOL!!

27 posted on 02/20/2002 3:07:07 AM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: Gridley_here
This guy needs to get at clue, the Theory of Evolution is the Satinsts creation story.

You are entitled to your opinion, am I entitled to mine?

28 posted on 02/20/2002 4:44:42 AM PST by Scully
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To: RadioAstronomer
What evolution teaches is fantasy--anti-gravity---fairy tales. A lot of mass entertainment at movie theatres is based on the suspension of reality...sorta of the art--science of modern public education---mass hype--hypnosis...disappearing reality--magic!
30 posted on 02/20/2002 8:46:56 AM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
What evolution teaches is fantasy--anti-gravity---fairy tales.

Nope. Evolution is the best model we have to date that describes the diversity and development of life here on this planet. I suggest you really sit down, take a month and read the links that PatrickHenry and Junior have so thoughtfully provided. It may give you a new perspective/outlook on the living world.

31 posted on 02/20/2002 12:44:05 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: cracker
reject evolution as pseudoscience
32 posted on 02/20/2002 12:46:57 PM PST by Khepera
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To: RadioAstronomer
Why bother...God would have to be lame---incompetent to come up with that rubbish--evolution!

Just the reason you like it too!

33 posted on 02/20/2002 12:49:05 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Just the reason you like it too!

Really? Why do you say this?

34 posted on 02/20/2002 12:51:19 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
Ask OJ Simpson!
35 posted on 02/20/2002 12:52:37 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Just the reason you like it too!

Ask OJ Simpson!

Please be more clear. I still am not following your argument.

36 posted on 02/20/2002 12:55:02 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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To: RadioAstronomer
I've always looked at it this way. If someone cannot say that it is possible that future evidence might discredit a holy book, or that new discoveries might cause one to think that the tenents of a religion are false, or that empirical evidence might discredit a philosophical or religious idea, then the book, tenent or idea is not scientific.

Everything in science is open to future revision based upon new evidence. Everything. If a religious theory cannot abide by the same rule, that it might be seen as false in light of new evidence, then it doesn't ask or answer a scientific question.
37 posted on 02/20/2002 12:56:40 PM PST by BikerNYC
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To: RadioAstronomer
(getting away with murder--assassination--theft--fraud)
38 posted on 02/20/2002 1:02:35 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: RadioAstronomer
Please be more clear. I still am not following your argument.

If you are expecting coherent discourse from him, you're in for a very long wait.

39 posted on 02/20/2002 1:03:04 PM PST by longshadow
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To: BikerNYC
Hmmmm.. I have always agreed with that. Did I come across wrong? I do not believe in evolution. I "know" evolution is the most valid scientific model we have (it is not a belief system like religion). The physical evidence is overwhelming.
40 posted on 02/20/2002 1:03:46 PM PST by RadioAstronomer
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