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To: fortheDeclaration; Jean Chauvin
If not, it should be invented. Mr. FTD, since you have shown not the least bit of reason, our conversation is over.

Jean, if you exercised the least bit of reason you'd see how unreasonable you're being above. John Calvin brushed aside a millenium and a half of Christian thought and claimed a personal pipeline directly into the mind of G-d. In the annals of Christian history there has scarcely been such an example of supreme arrogance. Everything objectionable that Protestants find with the doctrine of papal infallibility is fully manifest in the person of John Calvin (and Luther to a lesser extent). The doctrines of the Catholic church are claimed to be authoritative based on apostolic succession and the teaching role of the church. Calvin, and others like him, cut all that away and substituted their own individual reason in its place. Of course, they didn't have the courage to claim this but instead claimed that their interpretation was simply the plain voice of scripture. As a corollary, those who disagreed with them (such as Michael Servetus) didn't disagree with them but with G-d himself and showed themselves to be worthy of death at the "reformers'" hands. As Calvin said, (paraphrasing) "Sure, the Lord said to let the tares grow along with the wheat, but this was for the benefit of the wheat. So if we have a chance to root out and burn the tares without harming the wheat, there's nothing wrong with doing so" and so justified his murder of a number of people.
819 posted on 02/26/2002 12:31:46 PM PST by aruanan
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To: aruanan
. Everything objectionable that Protestants find with the doctrine of papal infallibility is fully manifest in the person of John Calvin (and Luther to a lesser extent).

Yes, Calvin has been described as the first 'Protestant Pope' of a Pope hating people!

824 posted on 02/26/2002 10:47:13 PM PST by fortheDeclaration
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