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RUSH TO DUB: IT'S GUT CHECK TIME ( Stand up for free speech. Veto this bill Mr. President)
rushlimbaugh ^ | 2/15/2002 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 02/16/2002 7:27:55 AM PST by TLBSHOW

Today, ladies and gentlemen, you cannot shout "Freedom!" in a crowded election. That's what this phony campaign finance reform bill will mean if it becomes law, which is why there is a huge debate going on inside the Bush White House over whether the president should veto or sign the bill. It appears right now the president is going to sign the thing - and this is what's troubling.

Mr. President, remember the brilliant address you made to the nation explaining our course of action in fighting world terrorism? I say the same kind of approach is called for with this deceptively named campaign finance reform bill. You enjoy an amazing level of trust with the American people. They trust you. They believe in your honesty and integrity. You could explain to them just why this bill is unconstitutional, and why it ought not ever see the light of day. The First Amendment has just been amended here in wanton violation of the Constitution.

Folks, when John McCain was running for president in the Republican primary, I said, "If Russia passed a new law that restricted free speech and competitive elections in the way that the McCain-Feingold bill does, and then claimed it was reform, our state department and human rights groups would denounce it as repression of the Russian people. The New York Times and Washington Post editorial pages would rail against these efforts as anti-Democratic - which they are." This bill is un-American, wrong and against freedom, and I say this knowing that it would make me even more powerful than I am now. Think about that.

President Bush has demonstrated that he has the resolve and the courage and the principle to face down the evil of terrorism. He's shown that he is committed to doing what's right regardless of what the European Union, congressional Democrats or even the media has to say about it. He's doing the right thing. He's following his instincts. Well, let me suggest that this assault on the Bill of Rights requires no less resolve and courage by the president to prevent a severe blow to our liberty.

To me, this is gut-check time, Mr. President. One of the major reasons you were supported over McCain back in the primary season in the year 2000 was your stand against this very bill. Stand up for free speech. Veto this bill.


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To: TLBSHOW
DITTO THE VETO
82 posted on 02/16/2002 8:38:47 AM PST by Bad~Rodeo
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To: godisright
Blah, blah, blah, blah...... same old tired crap. So you think it's a good idea to let media whores decide elections?
83 posted on 02/16/2002 8:39:31 AM PST by oldvike
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To: cynicom
Amen. When I see threads saying "Freep this Poll" on GW's job performance, they certainly don't mean me cuz I'd give him a 6 out of 10. Positive points for his prosecution of the war on terror and negative for increasing Federal control in his Education package; wanting to set up a massive federal "volunteer" program, the onerous "Patriot Act" that oblierates Fourth Amendment rights, plus more intrusion into health care

ALL social programs should be given back to the states. Let the Feds fight the wars and guard our borders, and he ain't even doing that .... he wants to give illegals resident status!!!

I take it back; he gets a 4!!

84 posted on 02/16/2002 8:39:41 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: godisright
money buys you influence and who has all the money here?

I am suspect of any liberal who says he's in favor of putting a cap on money spent toward campaigns........they have an idea in their heads about who this bill will be affecting, and it's not THEM! If Daschole is in favor of this bill, that already tells me all I need to know. There's something more than odious in the bill.

85 posted on 02/16/2002 8:41:14 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: RAT Patrol
"These two issues, for McCain, are not seperate, in my opinion. He is angry over the Keating thing, that gave rise to CFR. However, I bet a history check would prove he's felt slighted by the religious right in a campaign too. He wants revenge. He definitely feels slighted by them in the presidential primaries. He wants to outlaw the speech they used to defeat him.

My gut instinct is he was guilty of some impropriety concerning the Keating scandal, how much, we probably never know.

I think he is becoming profoundly evil. I wish he would seek professional help, and stop listening to the kudos from the ultra liberal left.

It's sad to watch his decline, as I used to have the utmost respect for him when I watched him in the House.

86 posted on 02/16/2002 8:41:59 AM PST by IVote2
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To: DLfromthedesert;cynicom
Furthermore, if he signs this turkey, how can we say he truly has integrity? It will be time to look for a better candidate!!
87 posted on 02/16/2002 8:43:10 AM PST by DLfromthedesert
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To: DLfromthedesert
Don't forget about this new greenhouse gasses emmissions proposal. I'm shocked at how many FReepers were defending him on this issue last week.
88 posted on 02/16/2002 8:43:48 AM PST by oldvike
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To: bray
When I heard Rush I turned on C-Span and witnessed the spectacle of statists,socialists,anti-constitutionalists and their dupes.There were a few brave Patriots but not enough! Most of them are POWER DRUNK fools at the very least-many traitors to their oaths of office.The Republic is dying a death of a thousand cuts-it's called incrementalism.The First is about to be "restricted" just like the Second.God help us.
89 posted on 02/16/2002 8:45:56 AM PST by lawdog
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To: IVote2
My gut instinct is he was guilty of some impropriety concerning the Keating scandal, how much, we probably never know.

I think he is becoming profoundly evil.

May I so bold as to correct you? I think he's been evil all along . . . it's just that he hid it much better before. Now, since he lost his presidential goals, he has nothing to lose by showing his true colors.

90 posted on 02/16/2002 8:46:41 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: glc1173@aol.com
Rush doesn't have any "guts" himself. He won't let the social issues on his show.

You are exactly right!

Roe v. Wade is a greater constitutional travesty than "campaign finance reform". Setting aside the issue of morality, Roe is bad law: it was a judicial usurpation of an issue that should be left to the states.

Rush misses the entire point: there is no constitution left. The federal judiciary has destroyed it. There is no system of federalism, no separation of powers, no moral code as the underpinning of the law; indeed, rule of law no longer exists.

This is precisely the reason why money is crucial in politics. The leviathian federal government intrudes into every facet of our lives and the buying of influence is the only means of portection as the hedge of law has been uprooted.

There should be a veto; however, all the discussion misses the point that the constitution has already been destroyed and liberty in large measure circumscribed by an activist judiciary and a congress that knows no limits.

91 posted on 02/16/2002 8:46:53 AM PST by hjp
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To: TLBSHOW
I believe GW will do the right thing, whatever it is. I don't pretend to know at this moment.

However that said, I have to add this. It was the DUTY of the House members to abide by the Constitution and those who helped pass this bill should take responsibility for their actions.

They voted to pass it. Now they look to GW to veto it. SAVE ME! SAVE ME!

Isn't that pretty cowardly??

One other point while I'm thinking about it. On Fox's Special Report with Brit Hume, Mort and Mariah thought this bill would help the Republicans in the short run.

92 posted on 02/16/2002 8:47:14 AM PST by IVote2
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To: nicmarlo
Couldn't agree more. I also have and do all I can, therefore, I assume I'm also an activist. No regrets, my friend.
93 posted on 02/16/2002 8:47:30 AM PST by rep-always
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To: baxter999
Press for sound link In context its not about freedom, its about the use of the internet to smear people

Cut below from anti-bush website.

In April 1999, ®TMark constructed GWBush.com, a website that at first glance appeared to be that of Republican Presidential candidate George W. Bush (his website is GeorgeWBush.com). ®TMark's first version incurred Bush's wrath, and his lawyers sent a threatening letter. The domain's owner, Zack Exley, then took down the site and attempted to sell his domain to the Bush camp.

By the time ®TMark's second version of GWBush.com was published, with much more content, the Bush campaign had complained to the Federal Elections Commission.

These attacks resulted in a major international news story, which was then magnified by Bush's televised response to a reporter's question about the site: "There ought to be limits to freedom," Bush said--a gaffe that has yet to disappear from public memory. (Click here for audio.)

The Bush campaign's intimidation tactics raised the eyebrows of several constitutional lawyers, who offered to support GWBush.com in potential copyright and electoral procedure lawsuits, arguing that although there ought indeed to be "limits to freedom", restricting free speech and limiting citizens' access to the political process was not the proper place to draw the line.

Shortly after the publicity's peak, Exley, the owner, struck out on his own with a value-added GWBush.com.

94 posted on 02/16/2002 8:48:44 AM PST by VRWC_minion
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To: oldvike
The quote is a BJ Clinton quote.
95 posted on 02/16/2002 8:49:29 AM PST by MamaLucci
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To: nicmarlo
Sadly, you probably are correct. We didn't have the past eight years of experience to guide us to detecting exactly what that smell was.
96 posted on 02/16/2002 8:49:53 AM PST by IVote2
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To: baxter999
Bush seems to be using his political capital as a chance to become more liberal. It has always failed for conservatives in the past and will fail again. No one cares for pols who have no backbone. They would rather see a tough conservative stand on principle than one on their knees begging to be loved by Demoncrats. As a powerful figure, Bush risks looking pathetic.
97 posted on 02/16/2002 8:51:31 AM PST by spycatcher
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To: IVote2
We didn't have the past eight years of experience to guide us to detecting exactly what that smell was.

That's because the smell from the White House was so overwhelming, we were unable to detect the less offensive ones.

98 posted on 02/16/2002 8:53:07 AM PST by nicmarlo
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To: IVote2
Well, if Mort and Mirah think it will help republicans, watch out, it's gonna be extremely helpful to democrats. I would not trust these two liberals as far as I can throw them. Anyway, I don't care who it helps, it infringes on my freedom of speech. VETO.
99 posted on 02/16/2002 8:53:25 AM PST by rep-always
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